• cyrano@piefed.socialOP
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    9 days ago

    If I threaten to assault my smaller friendly neighbor if he doesn’t give me part of his house and 1 of his kids, my neighbor who had my back after 9/11 and fought and died alongside my brothers in Afghanistan, and then apologists for me say “well he doesn’t really mean to execute his threat to assault you”, that does not make me a shrewd negotiator. It makes me a psychopathic garbage ally. That friend will seek other big allies. Don’t be surprised when this makes America poorer. If Trump keeps this up, you think Europe will have our back after another 9/11?

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      9 days ago

      If Trump keeps this up, you think Europe will have our back after another 9/11?

      You’re right. As you said, Europeans supported the US after 9/11, and died in Iraq and Afghanistan in order to help the US. The only time that NATO article 5 has ever been invoked, it was Europe helping the US. I guess Trump and his administration have no appreciation of that at all.

      Like you say, Europeans will not want to help the US if a time comes. Public opinion will be against it.

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        8 days ago

        Trump is simply narcissistic, racist, and demented. He only cares about himself and how he can profit and stay out of jail. Thats all there is to it.

        It makes no sense to me when all of these heads of atate try to play chess with trump. He’s to stupid for chess, just assume he’ll do the selfish racist thing and you will be correct 98% of the time.

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          Anyone who’s been around someone with a serious case of NPD, or a toddler, knows exactly how to play Trump. EU leaders tried some of those games, but now that his dementia is off the cliff, he’s no longer predictable, time to cut the cord and get it over with.

          Easy to say, I know. I’m not responsible for my country’s economy and citizen welfare.

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        8 days ago

        You’re right. As you said, Europeans supported the US terrorism after 9/11

        This reminiscence sound so pathetic. Helping invade and kill innocent civilians aint supporting, you fuckwits were complicit in war crimes.

        died in Iraq and Afghanistan in order to help the US

        Ya, that happens when you invade people.

        This sudden call for morals when you’re the one in danger of being invaded is hilarious.

        Fucking hypocrites.

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          8 days ago

          I’m not in favour of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars. I’m definitely not in favour of civilians being harmed. The point is that America asked for help after 9/11 and Europeans did help, with some giving up their lives.

          hilarious

          Maybe you’re similar to the tankies then, who claim to be anti-imperialist, but who are actually pro-imperialism as long as the West is on the receiving end of pain.