A comment from @disrooter from another thread;https://lemmy.ml/post/57418/comment/42932
"As someone who managed a PeerTube instance for a large YouTube channel I have to say the big problem is storage: how are you going to pay for storage that increases with each new video while the income is mostly the same? From a business point of view it’s a suicide.
Keep in mind content creators on YouTube produce many gigabytes/week. In a few years they would have to pay hundreds of dollars each week, even when they pause and not producing any new video, when they are getting less donations and so on.
Why should they invest so much money in a PeerTube instance? Only a premium pay-to-view service can justify it and you really need a high cost-to-produce-and-stream-the-video/minutes-of-video ratio to make it convenient, for example documentaries and not lazy records of hours of online debates." -end quote
This means that if avid content creators wants to host a peertube instance, they will be held back from doing it, because of how expensive it will be.
Just wanna talk about this issue, it deserves It’s own post. let me know what you think.
Kind of makes you wonder why google is willing to front the bill for all of data unless they are getting something valuable out of it.
I think initially YouTube operated at a significant loss, and might even still be doing so. They will of course benefit massively from the efficiencies of scale
companies do get a little spooky sometimes
Hmm first thoughts include, if you aren’t uploading on Youtube at all, make your videos shorter. I think videos have gotten as long as they have because of YT policy? I could be wrong, but shorter videos without cutting out in video sponsers.
I also think it depends on the channel. As a gamer channel, it might make sense to put more of your eggs in the Owncast/streaming basket so to speak and only upload moments deserving of video, like a highlight reel to bring it to awareness and then get the cash from streaming.
Third, this would be an excellent time to review old videos and get rid of the ones you don’t want anymore. Of course, this could backfire in the sense that someone else will potentially upload the video, but again, content creators on Peertube should not be relying on advertisement to get their money. Or at least, advertising as we know.
Also, perhaps there is a better way to upload to help limit the space it takes up? Exchange quality back down to what it was before until tech catches up in a couple years and we can experience 1080p again. I had a younger cousin show me a video and the quality dropped slightly and cousin apologized for the bad quality. I’m like bro, You know NOTHING of bad quality videos. The youth are so spoiled /s
My initial thoughts, take it with a grain of sand since I don’t care for people who try to make a living off entertainment. I provide and recieve my entertainment for free and can’t recall the last time I actually followed a creator on YouTube.
The problem here is not only maximizing content-quality over minutes-of-video ratio.
The problem is that the storage and its cost always increase over time while the income could be high but doesn’t increase accordingly.
Depending on how many followers you have and the optimization you make on duration the moment you will start losing money will be just removed. Maybe two years instead of one year? But that moment will come.
Mathematically, they are two time-dependent curves that will necessarily intersect at a certain point.
As I said in the original thread, the only solution I can think of is making content creators able to download old videos nobody watch, mark them as archived and if some users requests them the authors can decide to reupload them. In addition to this it should be possible for anyone with a seedbox for torrents to make old videos still available even if the server have not the files anymore, but huge work on PeerTube would be needed to allow the latter.
*not “removed” but “removed”, stupid auto-correction.
Ha, it’s Lemmy slur filter, it does replace “r-e-t-a-r-d-e-d” with “removed”.
This is way I often said this slur filter is a dumb idea.
*why
they should just get rid of racial slurs
Actually there are instances like peertube.su that allow unlimited uploading quota
I think the problem here is about storage and the business model of a decentralized video hosting
yeah that instance offers unlimited storage
The main reason why YouTube Creators are not coming to Peertube is as simple as Money. It is not worth it. They may be fine without earnings from YouTube, but I dont think Sponsors will pay the same if their videos are on Peertube.
but I dont think Sponsors will pay the same if their videos are on Peertube.
why? can you elaborate?
Sponsors’ pay depends on the number of views a particular creator gets on an average. Most of the time their contract will specify the number of views required for the payment. YouTube have huge number of users compared to Peertube and thus less views than YouTube. So they wont be getting the same money as they get when on Youtube. So, why move.
One solution is making videos low res. Not everything needs to be 4K afterall, in my experience 480p is pretty good enough under most circumstances. Issue is not many people are willing to do that. And besides there is still transcoding to worry about. It is a very difficult problem to tackle indeed.
From my experience tell to a video maker they can’t use 1080p or 720p but have to stuck to 480p and they will never want to talk about PeerTube anymore.
