Tesla’s driver assistance system is now called “Tesla Assisted Driving” in Europe, after Germany’s transport ministry said the old name was misleading. In a statement on 6 October…
The same statement revealed that the ministry and Tesla had agreed in September that the system may exceed the speed limit “slightly”, by up to 10%, and that Germany would support this approach in the EU approval process.
The headline makes this sound batshit insane, if you read the article is just annoying. Maximal 10% over is pretty much what the majority of drivers on the road are doing and which is seemingly not fined by police.
For some reason, which I heavily disagree with but starting a discussion in a German forum about it will get you some heated responses, every driver in Germany sees it as their god-given right to look at a speed limit at a default “must be 10% faster than that”.
So if you now allow a car to automatically accelerate and brake but actually ask it to stick to speed limits in Germany, there’d be a ton of people pissed they are stuck behind a stupid robo car, which is actually just observing the real speed limit.
Idiotic choice, but with how it works on German streets it does make sense.
Maximal 10% over is pretty much what the majority of drivers on the road are doing and which is seemingly not fined by police.
This was originally done to account for measuring errors in speed cameras, even though modern systems are much more accurate than those of the old days. Defaulting to only a smidge more than 10% above speed limit will get you fined in Germany, so it’s not the smartest strategy.
Errors in speed cameras and your own car’s speed measurements. It could be that your own car could be poorly tuned and give a small error, so you could claim in court that you legitimately were not aware you were speeding. But with a 10% offset that defense doesn’t hold.
I don’t know where you live exactly, but in the North, the OAmt is more than eager to put speed cams in places, where people do in their automatism at most +10%, but seldomly in actual danger zones.
Don’t get me wrong, this decision is batshit crazy and I do want a real fix ( e.g. just do the fines like in the rest of Europe? Germans are notoriously at snails-pace in Austria and Italy, because of that ;D )
Does most of Europe give out fines for going a little bit over the speed limit? I know here in Estonia they rarely bother. Cameras are 3% margin of error only, but there aren’t that many of those and between speedometer error and camera margin, you might be able to go 10% over as far as the car it’s concerned
100% true. If i drive in the city with tempomat at 50… it’s just a matter of time till the following car rams me in the back, they think if they close to 5 cm distance i will drive faster or something
The headline makes this sound batshit insane, if you read the article is just annoying. Maximal 10% over is pretty much what the majority of drivers on the road are doing and which is seemingly not fined by police.
For some reason, which I heavily disagree with but starting a discussion in a German forum about it will get you some heated responses, every driver in Germany sees it as their god-given right to look at a speed limit at a default “must be 10% faster than that”.
So if you now allow a car to automatically accelerate and brake but actually ask it to stick to speed limits in Germany, there’d be a ton of people pissed they are stuck behind a stupid robo car, which is actually just observing the real speed limit.
Idiotic choice, but with how it works on German streets it does make sense.
This was originally done to account for measuring errors in speed cameras, even though modern systems are much more accurate than those of the old days. Defaulting to only a smidge more than 10% above speed limit will get you fined in Germany, so it’s not the smartest strategy.
Errors in speed cameras and your own car’s speed measurements. It could be that your own car could be poorly tuned and give a small error, so you could claim in court that you legitimately were not aware you were speeding. But with a 10% offset that defense doesn’t hold.
It’s illegal to make a car that measures the speed too low, so there’s quite a bit of tolerance there as well.
Thanks. Yes, I forgot the other potentially inaccurate component in the equation.
I don’t know where you live exactly, but in the North, the OAmt is more than eager to put speed cams in places, where people do in their automatism at most +10%, but seldomly in actual danger zones.
Don’t get me wrong, this decision is batshit crazy and I do want a real fix ( e.g. just do the fines like in the rest of Europe? Germans are notoriously at snails-pace in Austria and Italy, because of that ;D )
Does most of Europe give out fines for going a little bit over the speed limit? I know here in Estonia they rarely bother. Cameras are 3% margin of error only, but there aren’t that many of those and between speedometer error and camera margin, you might be able to go 10% over as far as the car it’s concerned
100% true. If i drive in the city with tempomat at 50… it’s just a matter of time till the following car rams me in the back, they think if they close to 5 cm distance i will drive faster or something
That’s usually when I drop to 45
No it does not because they should all obey the limit. Cream pie argument. I know about the “culture” and it’s just rotten
You won’t hear me disagree with that.
In 1938, the majority of Germans were voting on Nazis.
So I really do not care about what the majority are doing. It should obey the speed limit just like everyone else should.
Self driving should be better than humans, not the same.
The nazis have literally nothing to do with this, other than the goober running tesla.
Godwin’s Law Speedrun Any%