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        • fascism is on the rise across the world

        • Climate change has finally caught up with us in a big way with politicians still doing almost nothing to stop it or even slow it down

        • peaceful protesters are being labeled as terrorists and sometimes murdered while ACTUAL terrorists are protected by cops and half of the ruling elite

        • income and wealth inequality and thus poverty are worse than they have been since the great depression and it’s only getting worse faster and faster

        • the financial elite and their imitators are profiteering away people’s ability to survive and people are blaming it on the government spending money to help keep the victims of said profiteering alive

        • there’s a war in Europe where the rich countries care about it and the political alliance that the aggressor belongs to has just expanded to consist of countries containing half of the people in the world

        • the least bad realistic option for US President is an octogenarian who entered politics before the invention of the pocket calculator and thinks the solution to police brutality is to throw money at cops

        • the other realistic option is the career criminal grifter leader of a Christofascist cult, who is also a malignant narcissist, a sociopath and as bright as Greenland in December

        This isn’t regular society, this is multiple crises piled on top of each other and about to explode into even worse catastrophe.

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      You don’t. It’s a time like any other and nothing will change anyways.

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    lemmitor :“Everything I don’t like is political. If it’s something I like, then it’s not political, but just common sense and has been that way since the dawn of time.”

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      Sounding an awful lot like Gamers.

      Two genders, male and political.

      Two races, white and political.

      Three sexual orientations, straight, hot lesbians, and political.

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        Three sexual orientations, straight, hot lesbians, and political.

        Gundam: the Witch From Mercury went from hot lesbians to political lesbians when they showed no-room-for-theoretical-male-senpai commitment and exchange of friendship rings! wojak-nooo

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            Last year I could have bought a new PS5 every month for the cost of electricity. Things have settled now but it’s still expensive - I switched a lot of my personal infra to the cloud and Intel NUCs to cut down the cost 😭

            IMO If people want to post hard political material on a mainstream meme community, I wish they would make a minimum effort to make it relatable to those outside of the various originator echo chamber communities.

            The constant “US Bad” “China Bad” and adjacent topics targeting a specific political audience gets annoying with how repetitive it is - if it’s not politics related to my region OR suggesting ways I can improve things, I could not honestly give a bigger dump

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            In Finland our prices jumped up for a while but have since gone back to normal. At least insofar as it’s not a news topic anymore.

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        Ce drăcie grăit-ai despre mine, mojicule? Țiu să-ți aduc întru știință căci fusei întîiul din Școala de Rezboiu de la Viana și fusei în multe misii neștiute la Înalta Poartă și pre mulți am prăpădit. Sînt școlit în rezboi de vicleșug și niminea nu mînuiește mai acătări ca mine archebusul în toată armia cea sfîntă. Mi-ești dară numai o șaibă. Te voi mătrăși cu atîta pricepere ce n-a văzut întreg Stambulul, ascultă voroavele mele. Îți închipui că vei rămîne slobod dupe ereziile ce mi le grăiești pre ceastă jalbă? Rogu-te a chibzui iară. Numai ce vorbim de am trimes soli către iscoadele mele din țările rumâne iară copita murgului tău e taman vegheată așa că proptește-te întru viforul ce-are să vină, mamelucule. Viforul ce-are să spîrcuiască nimicnicia ce tu găsești de cuviință a numi vieață. Ești pristăvit, mojicule. Poci ca să fiu orișiunde, fieștecînd și poci a te stropși în șapte sute de chipuri, iară asta doar în brînci. Iată că nu doar ce sînt înalt școlit în trîntă, dară poci umbla la armurăria dorobanților și am să mă slujesc de dînsa întru totul pentru a-ți nimici șezutul de pe fața gliei, zamparagiule. O, numai de-ai fi vezuit ce amărăciune vei fi ispitit asupra-ți cu ceastă şăgalnică cuvîntare, pasămite ai fi muțit. Dară nu-ți fu în putință, n-ai cadaticsit, iară acum vei da tribut, nărodule. Iată voi slobozi urgie asupra-ți și de îndată te vei năbuși într-însa. Ești pristăvit, mojicuțule.

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        I’ll try to watch some world news and see if i can find anything meme worthy. America is just so easy to meme, its low hanging fruit really.

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          The internet IS very US-centric, so this is kinda true, but it’s also very easy to abuse and bore people out. I’m Honduran and I know more about US Politics than about my country’s own politics. I know more about US politics than I do about every other country. This is not a flex, it’s a fucking burden on my mind and mental health.

          I kinda liked how Lemmy wasn’t too US-centric at first, but I’m feeling similar levels of burnout from Lemmy as I did from Reddit, which was mostly due to how much US shit was posted there just about everywhere.

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    Political memes -> memes complaining about political memes -> memes complaining about memes complaining about political memes

    Can we go deeper?

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    “The worst illiterate is the political illiterate, he doesn’t hear, doesn’t speak, nor participates in the political events. He doesn’t know the cost of life, the price of the bean, of the fish, of the flour, of the rent, of the shoes and of the medicine, all depends on political decisions. The political illiterate is so stupid that he is proud and swells his chest saying that he hates politics. The imbecile doesn’t know that, from his political ignorance is born the abandoned child, and the worst thieves of all, the bad politician, corrupted and flunky of the national and multinational companies.”

    ― Bertolt Brecht

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    That smuglord in a recent thread that said “programming.dev doesn’t allow politics” certainly allows programming.dev’s nonpolitical politics to ooze anywhere I can see a programming.dev user address of origin. smuglord

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        I never got the complaints about that. It’s not inherently bad to have one thing exert complete control over another thing… the problem is when you start doing it to people

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          I don’t think I’ve seen anyone with a problem with the computing concept itself, they have a problem with the unnecessarily unpleasant and offensive nomenclature. There’s lots of ways to express a leader/follower dynamic that’s intuitively understandable. Hell, call them Dom/Sub drives if you want to.

          There’s just no good reason to invoke historical attrocity that’s still ongoing to describe a concept like this.

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            Ok fair point and that is a really funny idea. But afaict dom/sub dynamics aren’t complete control and it would be pretty dangerous if they were

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    For me it’s not even about that. I do not care about US politics, I just want to see some funny memes

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      I dunno where you’re from but as a Canadian I’m dismayed when Canadians say they don’t care about u.s politics. Considering u.s politics influence our every day life just as much as the politics of our own Parliament. Anyone who has been to a major Canadian city and has seen Canadian idiots with the same Maga mentality, will tell you that u.s politics is a huge part of our life

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        I somewhat agree, but for my own mental health I’ve had to try and avoid it if I can. I still stay informed, I just don’t want US politics in every area of my life. I probably agree with most people on this site politically, I just don’t want to be so involved in that mind space all the time.

        It also feels very US-defaultism to put US memes here all the time. Sure, most people here are probably American, but not everyone is.

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        We have our own issues to solve first and foremost . I live in a major Canadian city and I’ve never seen maga people, I honestly blame those people watching too much American politics in the first place.

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        I find it quite difficult to block only US politics due to how it’s the “default” so people rarely specify it’s the US. It also just tends to be constant work as new scandals and stuff pop up.

        If anyone has some good filters please let me know.

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          Ya that’s called usdefaultism.

          That’s why I no longer specify which unit of measurement I am talking about anymore. It’s funny to watch Americans tell me I’m wrong.

          “Ya that costs like 30 bucks” and they come screaming about how I’m getting scammed because it’s only $20. Meanwhile I’m talking about CAD, not USD.

          Or when I’m talking about temperature, cities, etc.

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    Are we supposed to read every post and every comment even if we don’t like it ?

    That seems so unfair ! We should have a right not to read posts and comments if we find them about a subject we don’t want to interact with right then.

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    I don’t mind political memes, we’re adults and politics plays an important part of our lives, satire on politics is a welcome part of life, BUT… why must they all be foreign memes from the Americas?

    We should have a mix of political memes from all around the globe! Gods knows, Sunak or Braverman are deserving of memery… :-P

    I’m not smort enough to make memes :-(

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      Because y’all aren’t making other memes lol

      Well except the Germans. I see a lot of German memes on Kbin lol

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          Considering that the Germans still upload the memes using fax, it’s impressive that they are the biggest and loudest meme creators here in Europe.

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          I don’t understand a lick of German, but I probably look at 50% of the stuff they put up. It’s interesting seeing memes from other cultures.

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          Honestly, I just enjoy looking at the images and looking for patterns. It’s not like I sit there doing it for hours. If I see one that looks like it could be funny, I’ll look at it for 20 or 30 seconds and see what I can divine lol

          All of this is to say I don’t translate anything and often have literally no idea what is being said

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      why must they all be foreign memes from the Americas?

      We have the best memes. We are a meme force to be reckoned with.

      Also, we’re desperate for some mirth to lighten the burden of how horrible some of our politicians are.

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        Y’know I’m a patriot and all, but I wish we didn’t spend so much of our national budget on the Meme Force. Let’s stop shipping our memes overseas and start meming in our local communities

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          We could fund universal healthcare and free university for every American if we cut out Meme Force budget by just 10%, but then China’s Meme Force would be larger than the US and we can’t have that

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      I’ll never understand people who say this stuff. Like, make your own? Ask other Europeans to make them? What are we supposed to do, NOT post, because the minority of users don’t feel like their relevant?

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    Place for memes: Exists
    Political memes: Is this !politicalmemes?

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      Exactly. We complainers aren’t saying they can’t post about politics, just requesting they post their political memes in the designated political meme space.

      EDIT: A message to people from Hexbear

      Thank you for your input, but I stopped responding to arguments here at least 24 hours ago because I can’t juggle that many conversations at once. I would ask that you respect that and not continue to argue with me about what is and isn’t political, because I’m just going to ignore it anyways. Thank you.

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        The concept of having ‘free speech zones’ where political speech is allowed is … very inherently political though.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_speech_zone

        Civil liberties advocates argue that free speech zones are used as a form of censorship and public relations management to conceal the existence of popular opposition from the mass public and elected officials.[24] There is much controversy surrounding the creation of these areas – the mere existence of such zones is offensive to some people, who maintain that the First Amendment to the United States Constitution makes the entire country an unrestricted free speech zone.[24] The Department of Homeland Security “has even gone so far as to tell local police departments to regard critics of the War on Terrorism as potential terrorists themselves.”

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          In this context, it’s matters related to government, politicians, or the general culture of a country, in which there are two or more major camps of conflicting opinions, where a good deal of people in one or more of those camps view the other camp as evil because of their view.

          If the post is in a community where only one of the camps is significantly present, but the post is attacking the other camp, it is still political.

          Why do you ask? Are you hoping to expose some inconsistency in my definition? Maybe use it to call something I like political with the expectation that I’ll disagree with you? Or were you expecting my definition to be biased, calling something political that shouldn’t be, so that you could expose me as a moustache-twirling villain?

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            So we can’t post memes about … checks notes the general culture of our country?

            So no memes about anything with literally any specifics.

            You realize if you got your wish memses would just be “how many of yall like breathing”

            Maybe you could point us to an example of an acceptable meme with no politics involved.

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            You’re pretty upset that I asked a question aren’t you? I wonder why that is.

            Government and politicians I think are pretty self explanatory and I would agree those are inherently political, no argument there.

            What do you think is part of a general culture of a country, or not? How would you define culture that has conflicting opinions? Is it solely up to your discretion, or would you agree that if anyone has any disagreement about a meme that would make it automatically political?

            Is this one political because it references the FBI, a governmental organization? https://startrek.website/post/1847371 I would argue that it is political.

            Is this one political because it references culture related to advertising in capitalism? I would think everyone should agree that any reference to or commentary of an economic system is inherently political because of course economic systems are controversial. I don’t see how anyone could argue that references to a combination of two major brands isn’t a commentary on marketing: https://programming.dev/post/3200916

            I mean this one references politics so it’s clearly political right? https://lemm.ee/post/8502748

            I’m just curious about what you and others think is political versus not. You can’t have a discussion about if something should or should not be allowed if you can’t clearly define the boundaries of that thing. I find the discussion around what is and isn’t politics to be an interesting one, that’s all.

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              I think can answer the memes questions for you.

              1. Non political
              2. Non political
              3. I guess it could be considered political in a way, but it doesn’t target a specific party or opinion so I’d let it through.
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                Lmao. The FBI: famously non-political government organization that murders activists as easily as one can breath air.

                And Microsoft: famously non-political company that bribes lobbies the u.s government constantly to gain monopoly over their market, works hand-in-hand with federal agencies to monitor system users, and regularly influences city, state, and national politics in the pursuit of subsidies of the American worker in order to further boost their already gross profit margins.

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                  I’m not disagreeing that some companies can have a political impact on the world.

                  Those memes in particular, aren’t focused on the political aspects. You have to be missing a brain in order to miss the point there.

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                But I think they’re political. Is my opinion on what is and is not political invalid for some objective reason?

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                  You’re entitled to your opinion. It doesn’t make it less wrong though, the content of the memes is clearly not political.

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              Not upset, just suspicious because I’ve seen you asking that question a lot.

              Obviously what I consider political is up to my discretion, but I’m pretty sure the general definition does not include contentious memes, and mine doesn’t either because I gave a clause about one side considering the other side evil because of it.

              In general, if a person asks themselves “is what I’m posting political?” they can answer correctly 95% of the time, and the 5% of edge cases won’t upset 95% of the complainers.

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                That’s an awful lot of words to implicitly say “it’s not political if I agree with it”

                “If a person asks themselves is this political they can answer correctly 95% of the time.”

                Yea turns out it’s easier to answer a question correctly if you’re deciding I’d the answer is right or not.

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                  That’s an awful lot of words to implicitly say “it’s not political if I agree with it”

                  Where are you getting that?

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        just requesting they post their political memes in the designated political meme space

        How is everyone supposed to know what parts of reality and conceivable concepts are political to you and which parts of it are just the political status quo norms that you’re so comfortable with that you don’t notice it the way a fish doesn’t notice water?

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        Exactly! Just like how nobody was saying Rosa Parks couldn’t ride the bus. She would have gotten to her destination anyway had she just ridden at the back like we requested!

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          political memes are not comparable to segregation wtf, i dont mean to friendly fire but this take is not the dunk you think it is

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            You’re right. Wanting people who make you uncomfortable to go to their own area so that you don’t have to see them or think about their political grievances has no parallels with segregation.

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              Look, yes obviously as socialists we are not welcome in most public places if we speak out, but of all places to make that claim Lemmy.ml is not the one. The mods here are comrades. This is, next to hexbear and grad, probably one of the online spaces most receptive to us. The lemmitor you were replying to has no institutional power against us at all. I hate to tone police but posting on Lemmy is not comparable to being Rosa Parks and trying to make a tortured analogy isn’t helping anyone.

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                The atomic unit of propaganda is emphasis. If you force people to stop posting “political” memes in the main memes space then you are implicitly taking the stance is that “non-political” memes are normal and “political” memes are the other. Everyone intuitively understands that being othered is not desirable because the advocates for separation are not the ones volunteering to create their own apolitical memes space, they’re trying to get political memes ejected from the mainstream space.

                Of course this isn’t literal segregation, but the arguments for separation basically all boil down to “go to this separate but equal space and stay there” so if they don’t want to be compared to people who historically made the same argument, they should try coming up with a different argument.

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        You’re on the memes community for a political instance. If you were complaining about politics in the lemm.ee or lemmy.world meme communities I’d be entirely with you.

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      The funny thing is, deciding which memes are political and which memes are not political is itself a political decision

      You just can’t escape it

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        I think I can figure out where “DAE X political party bad?!?!?!?” should be

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    STOP POSTING ABOUT POLITICS. I’M TIRED OF SEEING IT. MY FRIENDS ON LEMMY SEND ME MEMES. ON KBIN IT’S FUCKIN’ MEMES. I WAS ON AN INSTANCE, RIGHT, AND AAAAAAALLLL OF THE COMMUNITIES ARE JUST POLITICS STUFF. I- I SHOWED MY CHAMPION UNDERWEAR TO MY GIRLFRIEND, AND THE LOGO, I LOOKED AT IT, AND I SAID, “HEY BABE, WHEN THE COMMODITY IS FETISHIZED” [ding-ding-dings to the tune of The Internationale] I FUCKIN’ LOOKED AT A TRASH CAN, I SAID, “UNDER CAPITALISM, WASTE PLAYS A VITAL ROLE IN THE ARTIFICIAL SCARCITY THAT UNDERPINS THE ENTIRE SOCIO-ECONOMIC SYSTEM”. I LOOK AT MY PENIS, I THINK OF THE OMNIPRESENT PHALLOCENTRISM IN OUR PATRIARCHAL SOCIETY, AND I GO, “POLITICS? MORE LIKE POLY-DICKS!

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      1 year ago

      Guess the anthems:

      • Ding ding ding ding, di-ding, ding ding ding ding, di-ding, ding ding ding ding.

      • Ding di-ding ding ding DING! Ding di-ding, ding ding ding.

      • Ding di-ding, ding ding, di-ding, ding, ding di-ding, ding ding, di-ding!

      • Ding, di-ding ding ding, ding, ding di-di-di-di-ding ding, di-di-di-di-di-di-DING.

      • Ding, ding, di-ding…

      • Ding, di-ding, ding, ding, ding, di-di-ding. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, di-di-DING.