It’s odd how often anti-zionism is equated with anti-Semitism. Zionism is the opposite of tolerance, and anti-Semitism is intolerance.
People seem to forget the Nazis were Zionists. They sent some of the Jewish population to Palestine. They also had plans of creating a Jewish state in Madagascar.
German had lost the ability to do either late in the war, when they took there hate to it final destination. People are right to be worried about what a state does to an oppressed class of people. Especially when said state wants those people gone and there is nowhere for them to go.
They also had plans of creating a Jewish state in Madagascar.
German had lost the ability to do either late in the war, when they took there hate to it final destination. People are right to be worried about what a state does to an oppressed class of people. Especially when said state wants those people gone and there is nowhere for them to go.
It’d be nice if you explained why it’s bullshit. Germany did plan to send the Jews to Madagascar there for a bit - so they could live in a german police state isolated on an island that might not have the resources to support all of them. People would die, Germany didn’t care, emigration was forced, and it certainly wasn’t meant to be the foundation of a Zionist state. It’d be a concentration camp on an island.
Yeah, sorry I wasn’t trying to correct you. I skimmed the article first, and I missed the key point (concentration camp, not Zionist state). Figured I’d save some else the trouble.
The numbers never added up. You know, this is why I linked to a cited comment. The Nazis never planned for Jews to settle in Madagascar - it was just never a realistic or rational choice.
Zionism is about an independent Jewish state, not a German police-state/penal colony. To say Nazi Germany was Zionist shows a lack of understanding of either the Nazis, Zionism or both.
It looks like the comment I’m responding to is imprecise and only directly quoting the accuracies rather than the inaccuracies. Basically the Nazis and Zionist Congress overlapped on the territories explored to be a “home” for the Jews, with obviously different intentions. So the inaccuracy here would be the conflation of the two on ideological grounds, but not necessarily on the logistical matters.
Where the conflation may not apply, is from the turn of the century to the rise of the Third Reich, did anti-Semites support the idea of Jews relocating elsewhere by their own volition, since (in their minds) it would have been a mutually beneficial arrangement? Debatably none of the major powers were friendly towards Jews (Bolsheviks at least disavowed antisemitism in an official capacity) at the time, hence a motivating factor for why the WZO was created.
It’s odd how often anti-zionism is equated with anti-Semitism. Zionism is the opposite of tolerance, and anti-Semitism is intolerance.
People seem to forget the Nazis were Zionists. They sent some of the Jewish population to Palestine. They also had plans of creating a Jewish state in Madagascar.
German had lost the ability to do either late in the war, when they took there hate to it final destination. People are right to be worried about what a state does to an oppressed class of people. Especially when said state wants those people gone and there is nowhere for them to go.
This bullshit. Hi bullshit, been a while - you still stink like you always did.
It’d be nice if you explained why it’s bullshit. Germany did plan to send the Jews to Madagascar there for a bit - so they could live in a german police state isolated on an island that might not have the resources to support all of them. People would die, Germany didn’t care, emigration was forced, and it certainly wasn’t meant to be the foundation of a Zionist state. It’d be a concentration camp on an island.
Exactly, concentration camp. Not some idyllic destination that the other bullshit artist is trying to sell.
Yeah, sorry I wasn’t trying to correct you. I skimmed the article first, and I missed the key point (concentration camp, not Zionist state). Figured I’d save some else the trouble.
The numbers never added up. You know, this is why I linked to a cited comment. The Nazis never planned for Jews to settle in Madagascar - it was just never a realistic or rational choice.
Oh yes, of course the Nazis. Historically recognized for their realistic, rational and congruent way of thinking.
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Looks like that comment is an accurate representation of the wikipedia page you shared so I fail to see where the bullshit is alleged to be.
Zionism is about an independent Jewish state, not a German police-state/penal colony. To say Nazi Germany was Zionist shows a lack of understanding of either the Nazis, Zionism or both.
It looks like the comment I’m responding to is imprecise and only directly quoting the accuracies rather than the inaccuracies. Basically the Nazis and Zionist Congress overlapped on the territories explored to be a “home” for the Jews, with obviously different intentions. So the inaccuracy here would be the conflation of the two on ideological grounds, but not necessarily on the logistical matters.
Where the conflation may not apply, is from the turn of the century to the rise of the Third Reich, did anti-Semites support the idea of Jews relocating elsewhere by their own volition, since (in their minds) it would have been a mutually beneficial arrangement? Debatably none of the major powers were friendly towards Jews (Bolsheviks at least disavowed antisemitism in an official capacity) at the time, hence a motivating factor for why the WZO was created.
It’s only accurate if you ignore the reporting by Poland.