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THE TWO MOST STOLEN ITEMS IN THE WORLD: a pen labeled Surplus Value of Workers Labor, and a lighter labeled Indigenous Land

  • danc4498@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I think land and a car are completely different. A car is a product that has been built and sold for a value. Often it can be proved who owned it, and how they acquired it.

    Land is a finite patch of earth somebody got to first and said “Mine”. Do we respect this rule of “ownership” no matter what has changed about the world and no matter how much time has passed?

    Are we going to be talking about who said “mine” first for the next two thousand years?

    Do we give the Native Americans all the land back and send 300 million people to Europe? Is that your solution?

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      1 year ago

      Honestly at this point, yes. If you want there to be a better solution, come up with something that doesn’t involve genocide. It will come to you VERY quickly. (I’ll give you a hint: Returning ownership to its rightful inhabitants does not require an ethnic cleansing campaign)

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        1 year ago

        Where do the mixed race people go back to? Like someone who is 25% Indigenous 25% Swedish 25% West African 25% North African?

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            1 year ago

            I did listen/read your comments, you just didn’t provide any viable solution for mixed race people like me and many millions of others. And the only joke (hopefully at least) answer you can come up with is, somewhat ironically, literal genocide.

            You don’t have any meaningful solution whatsoever. I don’t either, the difference is I’m not claiming I do. You are, but won’t provide it.

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              1 year ago

              I would explain what landback is all about but you would just call it white genocide.

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                1 year ago

                I’ll wait. I was under the impression land back is about returning land. I support the concept and I too, would like my land back. I’m not white and haven’t called anything white genocide ever.

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                  1 year ago

                  Cool so they get their land back then you get to just continue on living except now you don’t have to pay rent because they abolished property ownership. No genocides, no mass displacements. Yeah, I know. It really is that easy. Sounds like a cool plan, we should do that.

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                    1 year ago

                    So I get to continue living on someone else’s land? I really don’t feel good about that. And who is the ‘they’ here? Only pure blood line indigenous people, but not mixed race indigenous people? I sincerely do not understand what you’re trying to say here.

                    I definitely support ending property ownership and am a Marxist. But I still don’t know where the mixed race people like myself are supposed to go. And I literally want to go, just trying to figure out where.