• set_secret@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    And this is the kind of shit that happens when the right are put in power. Fuck people yay money.

    Disgusting.

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      1 year ago

      So they can decide what’s good for your body except for abortions? It’s incredible how people values are so fluid. They might as well say that everything the right does is evil and wrong.

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        1 year ago

        They should be called the pretty good and mostly evil sides if we were being honest. But no one wants to openly support the mostly evil side. (strangely there are a very large group of silent right supporters too what’s that about? )

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          1 year ago

          I think that’s the type of reasoning that leads to communism and famines. Politicians are known to steal agenda items from the other side. I think it’s really stupid to oppose good measures just because they are not coming from your tribe.

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        The thing is, if you smoke outdoors, you are violating people’s right to live in an clean environment and breathe fresh air. I don’t care if you fuck yourself up in your own house, but the moment smokers smoke outside of their own homes, they are messing with the liberties of all other citizens.

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          Obesity is the number one drain on the medical system by 10 fold over smokers. It’s the number one cause of death western nations now. Increased cancers/disease and chronic illness, plus a whole host of other things. Smokers are already disappearing because it’s been a taboo in society for a long time now. The next generation isn’t smoking anymore.

          Also alcohol is on the rise as well.

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            1 year ago

            I think vice taxes are a great tool to discourage behavior that affects public health but we need to increase them.

            However it’s a lot harder to create a vice tax on food. It would be great to make poor food choices more expensive than better choices but I don’t see how you can draw clear lines, nor be effective. For example this obese person doesn’t eat much junk or overly processed food so even if you could clearly define junk food, a vice tax wouldn’t help

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              1 year ago

              Ok, but what about those of us who enjoy pipe tobacco or cigars or any other form of smoking? It’s not killing us like the 6 pack a day guy…so why are we included in the ban? 99% of obese people aren’t eating healthy… they’re drinking a 2 liter of coke a day and eating fast food non stop. They’re the pack of day smokers…so you’re logic would apply to them as well…

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                1 year ago

                As someone who enjoys a good microbrew once in a while, or a smooth single malt, I would be affected by a higher alcohol tax but still think it’s a good idea. I like to think I’m responsibly enjoying my vice and I spend more on it to reach higher quality, but I still recognize it’s a vice. Realistically I’d grumble but not change my habits because I don’t use it very often

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                  1 year ago

                  You would be the exception to the rule. People would be pissed if it cut further into their purchasing power because of a high tax on alcohol. So while I applaud your willingness to take on a higher tax because you don’t drink often, many others would not be so willing.

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          Depends statistically they die earlier and of relatively quick diseases. Combined with a life time of paying steep taxes to ingest poison, usually they tend to be a net positive for the state (coldly put).