• Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I don’t want to sound like I’m defending Biden, but I don’t know why people find this surprising. I’ve only been paying attention to politics for about 30 years, but he’s been saying this loudly and proudly for as long as I can remember.

    Maybe people are just now noticing because it suddenly matters more than it used to. It definitely hits different when Israel is actively attempting a genocide, and it feels to me to be in pretty fucking terrible taste to beat that particular drum right now, but people are acting like this just came out of left field. He has been absolutely consistent about calling himself a Zionist for decades. It really shouldn’t have come as a shock.

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      1 year ago

      Even if he personally has an ideological commitment to Zionism, he should be smart enough to not to say it out loud when it is clearly an issue that supposes a risk to his numbers.

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      1 year ago

      It’s not surprising, it’s just disgusting to see this decrepit piece of shit double down on loving genocide and ethnic cleansing.

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      1 year ago

      Maybe people didn’t realize he’s a Catholic? Or thought that meant something other than implicit commitment to Zionism? Seems kind of hard to believe tbh

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          It doesn’t. It’s evangelicals which require Isreal for their doomsday prophecy

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          I have no idea what the dude is smoking. The Catholic church is explicitly against zionism. They wanted Jerusalem to be an international city.

          Pope Pius X stated "We cannot prevent the Jews from going to Jerusalem—but we could never sanction it. The soil of Jerusalem, if it was not always sacred, has been sanctified by the life of Jesus Christ. As the head of the Church I cannot tell you anything different.

          • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world
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            This was over a hundred years ago, and they’ve changed their tone significantly since then.

            Here’s a good paper on the modern history of the Catholic church’s approach.

            One thing I’ll grant is not all Catholics believe this. But then they also don’t really have an answer to dispensationalism. More on that here (this source is far from unbiased but the historicity is accurate).

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              I read through the paper and it really made the issue clear as mud.

              Can you define what “this” is? Because the one thing I have learned is Zionism can mean something slightly different to catholics.

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          Because belief in the biblical end of times requires it of those who believe in it.

          The Catholic church are not the only christian church guilty of this, but they do believe it. The papacy did for a time reject it, politically, but that was a short lived period in the church.

          Now, the most influential Catholic in the free world (maybe besides the Pope, if you’re a Catholic) is pro Zionism.