Welp, I made a similar thread yesterday regarding Manjaro but I decided to swap to Fedora as my daily driver for stability purposes. Unfortunately since fedora is yet another non Debian distro I need help finding a Syncterm replacement.
I’m my previous thread it was pointed out to me that syncterm has a docker option which I can run on Fedora, but I’d prefer running an app locally if possible.
I tried the Syncterm snap package which boots inside bash, but it doesn’t have ANSI support (which is the entire point of using Syncterm) since I assume it’s simply piggy backing off of bash- hence the 1.5* review on the snap store.
Looking for options… if anyone can help a Linux noob I’m all ears. I tried Alien to convert deb to rpm and fell on my face.
If you are looking for something a little more stable than Manjaro but still Arch based and beginner friendly EndeavorOS is a good option.
Not an answer to your question or suggesting you jump from Fedora just putting it out there.
These days, there is also the official guided installer for arch that may be worth a try. I had similar issues with Manjaro, but since this has been around I’ve never had a reason to try any arch derivative.
Good to hear. Thanks for the link. I’ll have to test it out in a VM
My brother had that OS. It worked fine until it got a bug that the computer froze when he enabled the wifi, and the only way to stop it was pressing the power button. I couldn’t figure out the cause, and there was many unnecessary things coming with the OS, so I helped him to install Arch instead. Now, it works well and feels clean.
Odds are it would have come up on a regular Arch install too, and simply reinstalling is what fixed it.
EndeavourOS is essentially just a GUI installer for Arch with some defaults changed.
I was wondering this, too. I’m too new to Manjaro to have any opinion about its long-term stability, but it doesn’t make intuitive sense to me that Manjaro would be less stable than a distro that is based solely on the AUR.
I wonder if Arch newbies choose Manjaro initially, improve their knowledge of Linux, then switch to Arch if their installation fails. After that, having reached Linux’s final boss, they know that all further problems in Arch are just part of the experience.
Or is it maybe that Arch installations are often more minimalist than Manjaro and so are less likely to have conflicts? By way of example, and going from memory, the base EndevourOS install is around 900 packages, while the base Manjaro install is over 14,000 packages.
I really like my Manjaro installations, so as you can imagine, I’m hoping it isn’t an inherently flawed distro.
I’ve been running Manjaro for about 6 years. I’ve only had self induced issues.
- I restarted during a GPU driver update
- I only used pacman to do system updates and it kept failing. I needed to use pamac for those round of updates instead.
Arch is a better OS in that you have more control of exactly what it will do. But Manjaro also provides a great experience out of the box with all the major DEs. It really comes down to how much convenience are you willing to trade for control.
For what it’s worth, I’ve only noticed the slower Manjaro repo helping me once when steam fonts broke on the arch repo. So I basically had a warning and was able to switch to the beta version of the steam client to avoid that issue. So the slower Manjaro repo is not a selling point IMO, but the DE tweaks and configurations are.
Looks like they’ve gotten better in the last year or so, but there’s a pretty strong pattern of fuck-ups that have put a lot of the community off of Manjaro: https://manjarno.pages.dev/
I get it but that sounds like a bit of a niche problem and I don’t know if OP, as a beginner, would have much luck setting up Arch on their own without running into some weird issue of a similar caliber.
If this was a recent occurrence, it may have been from the 6.6.5 kernel. There was a WiFi regression in that version that did exactly that, slowed the system to an absolute crawl. I got hit by it on my PC and ended up hosing my whole install (because I panicked and botched things up), but my laptop was fine. I finally got things reinstalled a couple days later when 6.6.6 was released, which fixed the regression anyway.
I also had issues with the wifi on EndevourOS just a few weeks ago. Ended up going back to Manjaro.
Isn’t it just an installer, welcome app, theming, and maybe an Nvidia driver helper?
I don’t think Endeavour really adds that much, but maybe my perception has been wrong this whole time 🤷
My 6800xt desktop regularly froze on endeavour, but on nobara it hasn’t frozen nearly as frequently. Also, i encountered an update issue that broke most of the packages, and I spent an absurd amount of time fixing it. It happened again after a couple of months. I managed to fix it quicker this time, but endeavour os (and arch) is not as stable as the experienced arch users make it to be. I’m not an arch newbie btw. I’ve been using arch, Manjaro, and endeavour for close to 10 years now. Just recently switched to nobara. (distrohopped frequently since Ubuntu 5.04, but I just want a maintenance free distro these days)
You van try creating an arch linux distrobox and install yay inside that
Don’t understand why you’re being downvoted, this is definitely the cleanest solution.
There’s also a new handy app to manage the containers of distrobox: BoxBuddy, I’ve just noticed it switched to Rust and GTK now and, even better, it’s right there on Flathub!
Why do people use the aur on manjaro? I thought they specifically say that the aur is not supported on manjaro.
Why use an Arch-based distro if you can’t use the AUR? It’s like one of the most, if not the most defining feature of them
Because you get package updates before most other distros.
AUR is also not supported on Arch, so support has nothing to do with it.
On Arch the AUR is made specifically for arch users so while not supported by the distro Arch is supported by the aur.
That’s what I was wondering. Seems like a recipe for disaster having your main system be several versions behind them shoehorning bleeding dependencies for AUR programs into the mix.
They have an option in their own pamac GUI to enable the AUR. IMO if they want to send the message that it will cause issues and it shouldn’t be used, they shouldn’t make it so easy to enable. Or if they do want to make it that easy, display a clear disclaimer about the issues you can expect to run into if you try it.
Did someone really manage to convince you that Fedora would be more stable than Manjaro?
For the record, I’ve been using Manjaro for 3 years without any reinstall on my main laptop and I still haven’t witnessed any stability issue. My experience with Fedora has not been similar at all…
Yes same here, I’ve been using Manjaro for a few years since I’m too busy to waste an entire day setting up a naked Arch. I have had no single stability issue, thing is rock solid
On the counterpart, fedora has always felt like I can’t get a single package installed without the need for arcane
sudo magic tricksand my system being unable to update anymore at the end of the process. I know that the problem probably lies between the bed and the keyboard, but come on, I am skilled enough to install and rice an Archlinux and manage my AUR packages without problems, but can’t install GCC on fedora? Hmmm…And I’m not even mentioning conflicts and packages being unavailable either because your version of fedora is too young or too old
Consider building it from source. A quick websearch for Syncterm Fedora and Syncterm Build had a few tutorials.
Or try taking a look at the AUR pkgbuild file, it’s basically an install script, might give you clues on how to build it yourself if you want to experiment and learn :)
That might be what I have to do. Back when I was on Kubuntu I built it from source using a tutorial for deb based machines. I searched for a similar guide with Fedora’s RPM as the focus but couldn’t find anything. Most Linux guides I see posted are for some flavor of Ubuntu.
Install manjaro
Switch to arch repos
Profit
That’s what I did for a while and it was way more stable. Now I just use fedora cause I find it simple and easy out the box.
Isn’t that just Arch 😁
With a few steps.
You can just install Arch in a distrobox if you want or a debian + children in a distrobox, install the app and it should launch from your launcher like any other app you use. Distrobox is fantastic.
When I need to install something from the AUR, I just enter my Arch distrobox and do it, same for Ubuntu and stuff.
Edit:
I forgot to mention that you’ll need to use the distrobox-export command to make it so you can launch an app like any other easily from your launcher.
Syncterm seems to be available in nixpkgs. It’s trivial to install Nix (the package manager, not NixOS the system) on top of any system you choose and then add one or two packages you need, in this case just Syncterm.
You can get any software from any distro with distrobox.
It’s trivial to set up a fairly solid up to date rolling release on debian if that’s what you prefer,
stableisn’t the only release debian offers.God damn these replies are braindead
https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?t=5658
Auto script that builds and installs for both Debian and Fedora.
Unfortunately, no RPMs exist on repos and COPR, which is Fedora’s AUR.
spoiler
Although considering the AUR package hasn’t been updated since June of last year, I doubt having a COPR build will be beneficial.
Nevertheless, it would be useful to have an available RPM. If I get time, I can submit one to COPR.
If you want to go back to something based on debian, consider PopOS!
Try to avoid flatpak; snap too. It’s got horrible validation and by ruining single source of truth on your installation state it actually craters that validation. It’s bad, and bad for you.
Don’t convert packages to packages: there’s too many literals in there that will cause problems. I sat on the FHS committee and I had such high hopes; but no.
Also, Manjaro’s fine. Maybe look at magaeia. Its polluted with systemd fridge art, but it’s maintained and fresh. It may have what you want.
Your recommending Mageaia? Seriously?
I would go with Linux mint, Fedora or something a little more mainstream
The knots you guys insist on twisting yourselves into is comical.
Ha! Touché. TBF this isn’t a common problem as this is a particularly niche piece of software. Everything else I needed was easily installed via the Fedora package manager- click install and done. Turns out BBS emulators aren’t plentiful in 2023 (⌐■_■)
As a note, when you can’t find a package, go find the source, you can usually build and install in a couple commands. Its nice to use the package management of the distro, but most of the time, you could just install the deps and compile and be done with it.
