The Chinese leader Biden told China’s ambitions to control Taiwan were unchanged at a meeting meant to reduce tensions.

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      1 year ago

      No, they would very thoroughly lose. China’s in no condition to take on the US, let alone decouple its economy from the global community.

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        “global” is turning out to be a small handful of countries, and the other block is actively securing the rest of the world into their influence

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            China and Russia have funded and installed infrastructure to increase the quality of life (as in, keep the politicians elected, as well as put into their debt and influence) of most countries that aren’t either directly touching America, a part of Western Europe, or down Australia way.

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              So US, Canada, Mexico, a lot of South America, the Philippines, Vietnam, Singapore, Taiwan, UK, Ireland, Scotland, all of the EU (27 countries with an 18 trillion gdp), any other western aligned or NATO countries Norway, Iceland, Australia and more…

              Against china and a country with a smaller economy than Texas… you got things backwards.

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              Hahahaha oh fucking hell that is hilarious.

              Like you actually made me legitimately laugh, thanks for that.

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          I mean, I agree, but that doesn’t mean China could “win” in an offensive military action against Taiwan. Taiwan is literally a fortress and Taiwan/China cultural overlap is too significant to drive strong warmongering sentiment.

          An invasion is such a silly suggestion that it doesn’t even need consideration. At best, it would be a pyrrhic victory with millions dead on both sides and the island in ruins.

          The far more likely scenario is a blockade, sorry, “economic embargo” of Taiwan… Of course, Cuba is a clear example of how a blockade economic embargo doesn’t really work, so…

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            Millions? That’s just another Sunday as far as Chinese warfare goes.

            That would undoubtedly be a victory for China. A ruined island can be rebuilt and kept forever. An independent island cannot.

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    There’s so much stuff coming out about China gearing towards Taiwan and its pretty scary. Either we let dictatorship shithole take a democratic militarized country by force or China will be put to Russian level shame and basically never recover. That’s some real ww3 stuff. I hope Europe gets their shit together until that time comes.

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    Has anyone read the founding documents of the PRC from 1949 1949? China’s policy has always been “we will unify with Taiwan, by military means if necessary.” It’s like saying “God Save The Queen” or “I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.” There’s a fundamental gap between what’s written officially as a matter of “this is what I believe” and what’s implemented in policy.

    If it didn’t warrant a hostile reaction a decade ago, it doesn’t warrant one today. China isn’t any closer to military action against Taiwan today than they were a decade ago. The First, Second, and Third Taiwan Strait Crises showed that the status quo would be basically impossible to flip militarily without millions of lives lost. It’s much easier to just expand trade, expand travel, expand cultural interchange, and expand immigration.

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    China has long had a unification plan. It’s not really anything new. There’s just been a huge political football made out of it for decades. And of course that led to stupidly huge over investment in their economy by the rest of the globe as a way to encourage China to back off. Xi doesn’t see the value in the status quo. It’d be like California seceding, then making tons of money while the rest of the US went fascist and built military power. Same ending.