• AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
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    9 hours ago

    I’ve had so many people claim I’m racist online for saying stuff about China. Even after I point out that I’m Chinese, it still doesn’t help for some reason.

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      8 hours ago

      You’re speaking english on the internet. Not only are you white, you are American and Male by default.

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      It seems like literally every Chinese person I’ve talked to is absolutely delighted when a westerner is interested in Chinese culture. I remember being assigned a trip to a buffet for a high school Chinese class, and my atonal 你好 got about as much praise as a baby sputtering out “da-da” for the first time. I posted some calligraphy on 小红书 a couple days ago and I am getting gassed up for it.

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        You can say the most basic phrase in mandarin and completely screw it up both grammatically and pronunciation-wise and they’d absolutely love it and applaud you for it

        Provided you’re white

        Although the Chinese on XHS are actually quite annoyed at the waiguoren invasion right now

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          Although the Chinese on XHS are actually quite annoyed at the waiguoren invasion right now

          My feed is mostly english speakers, but every post I saw to the effect of “gtfo this is a chinese space” was getting mocked by chinese people pointing out IP indicated it was posted from America.

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            I think it’s NIMBYism in a way. Sure, they like to talk to Laowai and like it when they do something Chinese, but they don’t really want them intruding on their social media network. The Great Firewall exists for a reason- Chinese culture and attitudes are vastly different to that of the west. There was a joke going around that watching Chinese short-form videos “is like tuning into interdimensional cable”

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      9 hours ago

      You can say racist stuff about a group whether you belong in the group or not.

      What is this absurdity of thinking that you get a free pass to say crap?

      “Black people should have remained slaves. But it’s ok, I can say it because I’m black”

      Nonsense.

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        9 hours ago

        There’s a far cry between me criticising the CCP for things like the Uyghur genocide and other political issues, and your made up strawman argument. Anybody should be free to criticise any country in the first place, without having to worry about skin colour.

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          8 hours ago

          Keep saying it, you’re only offending reactionaries and tankies - and it is not even their goal to be happy, as near as anyone can tell.

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            Oh yeah, I’ve been banned multiple times for being a Chinese who’s racist against China. I plan to keep being racist by that particular definition.

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              7 hours ago

              I know someone who said that America is racist for siding with Taiwan on things and then I pointed out to them that (except a minority) Taiwan is predominantly Han Chinese

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          You implied that being Chinese is a counterpoint to people calling you racist. That’s what I was commenting on.

          Whether what you said to those people was racist or not is out of the point. I was criticizing the fact that you consider that being Chinese would prevent you from being racist, which is absurd.

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            I think pretty much everybody can agree that being of a certain race gives you a lot more leeway and defense against accusations of racism against that race. It would take an extremely radical statement to go beyond that.

            … at least, that’s what my black friends tell me when they call each other ‘nigga’.

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              Most americans maybe, I’ve never seen this idea anywhere else.

              And funnily enough people don’t have the same logic with, for example, sexism.

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          This is just completely tone-deaf bullshit. Equating modern working conditions (in western countries) to slavery is like comparing a contemporary Scandinavian prison to Auschwitz. It’s by very far not the same.