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I thought that was a given… or people really don’t understand how it works?


You asked why he needed a lemmy server for.

I don’t know why he does, I’m just saying that you don’t need a specific reason other than wanting to do so.

Having the skill set to host a server is not required, you can have it hosted if you’re willing to pay, which seems to be the case of OP here.

Don’t misunderstand me, I’m not saying it’s bad to use an existing instance.


Since the fediverse is supposed to be decentralized, if you can host your own server and you feel like doing it, I would say you should do so.


I started with the yunohost install as well but decided to migrate to the officially supported docker install when I had issues with upgrades or had to wait for the ynh package to catch up. Although I don’t want to take your money and bear the responsability of handling the migration, I could give you some pointers.

  • Use the official backup and restore documentation as an inspiration
  • Use the -W option with postgres commands so that you get prompted for the password
  • Don’t use pg_dumpall but pg_dump instead and select the lemmy db
  • First migrate to the same version on docker
  • Make sure everything is working fine
  • Then proceed to upgrading to latest (depending on which version you come from maybe it would be safer to use intermediate releases)

That’s from the top of my head but I had to try a few times before getting it right.


Exactly the same, I’ve been using it for years now because, as you said, it’s functional but I would gladly see it more user-friendly.


What kind of issues do you have? Never had any using Debian, Ubuntu or arch


There was (is?) definitely something missing with xmpp though, since it did not (from my point of view anyway) take off.

I feel like fragmentation is also an issue with xmpp with tons of client implementing their own subset of the xep and none of them being really appealing to non tech-savy people.

Also the big issue is that people don’t understand the federation thing, element chose to use the matrix.org server by default and that is an issue, make this instance way too big but it also made onboarding way easier for some people.

I don’t know if there ever was a similar initiative with xmpp? Again we could argue it’s not a good solution, but does the good solution really exist, other than wishing for people to understand what’s really good for them and hoping they make the right choice?

I would gladly switch back to xmpp if it could be at least as useful to me as matrix, but sadly that’s not the case.


I won’t though since I just don’t feel the need, I know noone using xmpp anymore and don’t know of insteresting xmpp room I would like to join. If I do though I would gladly try xmpp bridging as I did with signal with my friend who are only there.


I used to use xmpp, hell my server is still running perfectly (mainly because it’s an integral part of yunohost), I must say though that I never found a client I was truly comfortable with. I can’t say whether that’s due to the protocol or not.

I also know I never really had real contacts using xmpp and never found interesting rooms to join.

Since I’ve switched to matrix I have been able to make people migrate over mostly I think because of the user experience with the client (element), I joined lots of rooms on which I have lots of interesting discussions.

That being said there are some issues discussed in the article I must agree on:

  • the lack of native client on PC
  • reinventing the wheel, though I’m not qualified to determine if their reason for doing so is acceptable or not
  • rooms discoverability is quite centralized, as are the invite links going through matrix.org
  • the thing about new room versions, again I don’t really know about the technical behind that

So I would say matrix is far from perfect but I consider it a step in the right direction. You can have technically perfect tool, it’s useless if you can’t get people to use it.


I have been looking for something like that, thanks for sharing!

I don’t understand why this is not the default behavior for Activitypub federated blog engines like writefreely, it would make so much sense!


Very interesting indeed, I could feel that wasn’t easy but had never read a such detailed description of the hardships encountered doing so.

It’s not THE solution but maybe it would be nice to have some sort of testimony section on code management tools so that developers could also feel the love for their product and not only negativity. Of course people could create issues to thank devs but since they’re called issues…

Well at least I can use this occasion to thank you and all the other devs and contributors for the wonderful job on lemmy, I really enjoy it.



I can’t even follow communities apparently, I can click the follow button but then when I come back to the community it’s unchecked again.


Everything that made us come here?

  • Proprietary
  • Ads
  • centralized


That’s what I meant, that the target instance did not enable federation. It could be a misconfiguration, or something else entirely, I did not check my logs to see what had happened exactly.


That’s odd, I have the same issue on my instance. Maybe the target instance does not federate with lemmy.ml?


I don’t get how there can be an ethical question here either.

The only ethical question should be to the detriment of twitter or about specific instances with questionable rules but not about the whole mastodon platform, let alone the fediverse.


Mastodon and pixelfed both self-hosted


Always has been and (probably) always will be vim



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Hey, what are you implying here?..


Interesting, I’m surely going to try the reverse proxy approach, that way we should be able to manage the accounts we want to be discoverable.


I like testing new self hosted software and some other techy stuff.

I also like playing vr racing Sims.

When the weather allows it I like taking my rc car out. But I do not have that much free time, specially since mini me was born.


I would definitely have added disabling password authentication in there and only authorized SSH key authentication.



I saw that happen and first told myself, “well people could at least give the guy and rpi the benefit of the doubt, at least they are being open about it”. After all I’m sure we do need surveillance cops and all (I guess?). Then I saw the childish and kind of disrespectful answers from rpi to some people just nicely voicing their concern and thought “maybe the guy deserved the benefit of the doubt but rpi surely doesn’t”


It would have been nice to have a bit more information:

  • does it have a frontend?
  • If so what does it look like?
  • What does “somewhat compatible with mastodon” mean? Which features are working?

I don’t think so but maybe you should get confirmation from the Devs. I don’t know if you’re in the same case than me but I made a script to workaround this federation issue. Maybe it could be useful to you. I explained it in a little blog post


You need to at least search for remote communities from your instance to see their content appear. Keep in mind it’s not retroactive though (I think), you’ll see content from the moment you made the search.


Take a look at rofimoji. You get an emoji selector popup and inputs it in your current app.




It looks like you’re on android, the applications lemmur and jerboa have that feature by default, although having it in the web app would be nice indeed.


I’m pretty sure that would just make the girls find some other way to do it without direct contact but maybe I’m just too cynical 😃


That’s a really cool thing to do with your grandkids


That seems like a good idea but maybe make it opt-in to avoid having to choose a default one and be forced to monitor its availability, or at least let the instance admin choose the defaults if they want to do so.


Really cool, thank you.

I have a small issue with some dark themes, but anyway I stuck with vapowave-dark even so :)

I love darkspace.


Well, I don’t know if that’s really sad, I think people should have a minimum of knowledge to host online services. Doing it while learning system administration from scratch and hoping it will be easy is kind of naive.

I did not read the docs but if it’s not the case maybe some basic knowledge should be listed as requirement along with some links to tutorials?


I do exactly the same that way I always get new content as I check in a few times a day. I have trouble understanding the trending and active sorting methods.


Those are very nice, thanks for sharing!


Do you know and use manyverse? Care to invite me?
Hey, I just discovered [manyverse](https://manyver.se). It looks interesting but I kind of understand why I had not heard of it even though it seems to have been around for a while now...It looks like it's a little bit complicated to discover and follow people, I know it's a common issue for decentralized tools but with this one it's even harder since it only works with invites (correct me if I'm wrong). Have you heard about it? What do you think of it? Apparently the best way to discover people is to join a room server but again, I need an invite for that. Can one of you guys invite me to a room server please?
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I installed Lemmy
I added Lemmy to the list of my self-hosted fediverse services, here’s what I think about it and how I made it more useful in a single-user instance configuration.
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Ok so I managed to make federation working, mind your versions!
I had tried version 0.11.3 and 0.13.0, those were not working, finally tried 0.13.3 as suggested by @nutomic:matrix.org and now everything is working as expected
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