SimpleX Chat: private and secure messenger without any user IDs (not even random)
simplex.chatSimpleX Chat - a private and encrypted messenger without any user IDs (not even random ones)! Make a private connection via link / QR code to send messages and make calls.
New in v4.4 (Testflight Beta):
- disappearing messages (with mutual agreement)!
- live messages – they update for all recipients as you type them.
- connection security code verification, for contacts and group members – protect from MITM attacks.
- send animated images and “stickers” (e.g., from GIF and PNG files and 3rd party keyboards)
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That’s great! But I whish they fixed their UI. Why not use the native android one?!?
Not entirely sure “mutual agreement” makes sense? I would need to read more about it, but my feeling is that it is reasonable to have the sender of the message set the terms here.
Why would anyone want that? Is there a way to disable that?
There’s a 4chan-like site that has this “live” feature, it’s really fun and honestly doesn’t get old. There were people really bad at typing, but it wasn’t such a big deal, and even better if you’re chatting with friends.
This is fundamentally impossible thanks to the analog loophole. The receiver can always copy down the message to a notepad, or just remember it. Exposing this mutual agreement is staying honest and make sure that it is understood by everyone involved.
It is important to remember that disappearing messages (in any application) are only helpful for people who you trust currently. (And until the messages are deleted.)
There is another use case for disappearing messages: protection against domestic violence. If the violent partner checks the victim’s device, seeing messages might incite an attack.
This is the same. You trust the recipient but don’t wan the messages to be stored for a long time.
Sure, no question about it. Still, how the feature is designed matters, and I feel a design requiring both parties to consent to disappearing messages before they are enabled is bad design in this case.
One of the reasons why is: you might want to send some sensitive messages to someone while they are away/offline/unavailable. Being able to enable disappearing messages and then send what you need to send is quite important.
Have you tried Simplex Chat ? How do you like it ?
Finally people can witness how disordered my thinking is online, thereafter being impressed with my ability to ever reach any conclusion or share one coherent thought
exactly
Great, now everyone will know how bad my typing is and how often I have to backspace typos!
so… it uses passkeys i assume… if you lose your device or change devices then you’re a new person right?
that will be spicy for many