This is how protests work : they simply cannot arrest tens of thousands of people.
That’s beautiful right there
When will the Hungarians finally drop the fucking clown Orban into the Donau (Danube) River?
people who dont live here do not know how fucked up is it. every media is owned by orban, and the countryside folk are mostly old people who dont use the internet, so their only news source is straight up propaganda.
Genuine question: do you think eliminating Orban from the political scene will seriously change things?
I lived in Hungary and interact often with Hungarian expats and I have a very negative outlook if no real cultural change is enacted.
As you say, the countryside people are just like Italian and even Danish ones, and served propaganda daily, but the level of nationalism I experienced in Hungary from almost all sides of the political spectrum tells me there is something deeper at play.
I find it plausible that Orbán and the average Orbán voter sees the Russian invasion of Ukraine as a godsent opportunity for Hungarian revanchism on parts of Ukrainian territory.
Please don’t throw trash in rivers.
Pretty sure he’s biodegradable
Shit is also biodegradable, still not great to have in the river (in large quantities)
(“The mayor announces that beer will be brewed on Wednesday, therefore beginning Tuesday people are not to shit in the brook”)
That’s an awesome sign!
Fair point, he is a toxic piece of shit
Hungarian here if anyone has any questions :>
Me too lol if anyone needs two hungarians answering
Me three
Question for all 3, what are Hungarians doing to get rid of orban?
Regular protests, giving part of our tax and donating to independent media, talking to right-wing family about all the issues here, voting for the opposition. Sadly the opposition hasn’t been potent lately (all 14 years of Orbán until last year). As in they were idiots. And then finally we got someone who can actually can speak to the masses (Peter Magyar) just last year and now we may get rid of Orban with the elections last year. Well that is if he doesn’t ban Magyar from running.
Is this the “gray” march I heard of, weeks ago?
The pride march was yesterday, the grey march was made by a satirical small party (kétfarkú kutyapárt [two tailed dog party]) which was making fun of the governments stance, amongst many-many-many other things, on pride! The significance of that march was, aside from drawing a penis on the map, that inconsiderably more folks attended that than that of Viktors, which also took place parallel to that! Like hundreds of thousands of people attended one, while only a few thousand attended the other
I think your numbers are a bit off for the gray pride march. I don’t know the numbers, but MKKP even on their better days, don’t pull multiple 10s of thousands, and that Fidesz ralley looked like an impromptu meeting of a couple of hundred.
This one though. I am sorry I couldn’t join, but it was a sight to see the bridge and Rákóczi út fill up like that. 100k+ numbers here.
Yeah probably those apps are not that precise measuring crowns 😅
No questions, just keep up the good fight :)
I like to say “Slava Ukraini“ to cheer on the Ukrainians in their struggle. Is there a good such similar expression for Hungarians in theirs?
Maybe the “szív szív lapát”(—>hearth hearth shovel, referring to a hearth shaped shovel implying what is awaiting Fidesz members)
Closest I got is ‘bojler eladó’, but it is nowhere near as heartening as what Ukraine’s got.
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That is a big bridge. Impressive to see that many people shoulder to shoulder.
I visited Budapest in 2015 and most recently this summer. The city subway was significantly modernized, and also felt more expensive. Overall a great experience. Curious how the last 10 years have been for you? What’s your recommendation for a place to visit in Hungary outside of Budapest?
For urban exploring I would recommend Székesfehérvár (crowning city of the past empire)
For tracking I personally love the Bükk mountains
For bathing and relaxing I would recommend Hévíz
- Is there hope for Orban to be removed?
- Is the Orban situation partly a city vs non-city thing? (in terms of votes)
- How come the Budapest pride was able to go through despite the ban?
-The question is now not whether Tisza, the largest opp party, is going to win (independent analysis measured 51% for Tisza and 34(?)% for Fidesz, while the government stopped posting their analysis for some stramge-inexplicable reason) but if Fidesz is going to relinquish the power! I personally very much doubt that we won’t need to have a civil war, a short one as apparently as no one really supports Fidesz anymore -While undoubtedly such a demagogue would have and has its base in the less educated parts of the country, another stronger reason is that the former oppositionary parties abandoned the countryside(everything outside of the capital) for an actually unexplainable reason! Peter Magyar, leader of Tisza, was proclaimed a genius by independent media for doing the obvious thing: doing nationwide tours… -One of the largest points of the pride march was a dare for the gov to enforce its ruling banning our rights of protest! Most people probably didn’t attend to stand in solidarity of the non-conventional sexes; as last year only 35k attended while this year it was between 200-500k
The signs you need to look for is what happens next. Sure, they knew the optics would be really bad if the police had started slaying into 300/500K people. But tomorrow or next week it’ll only be a few hundred. Or just individuals that wear a rainbow item. Will they ‘disappear’ such as is now happening with darker skinned people in the US?
I really wouldn’t think that things will devolve that way! Such would only trigger a stronger response at a time when the idea of a civil war is only becoming more and more socially acceptable view to remove the administration!
Why don’t you kick the fucker out?
Eh, Viktor’s continuous rein can be thanked to a multitude of reasons, amongst which voter fraud will undoubtedly turn out to be whenever those files become public! But the gist of it is:
-He took over at a time political chaos, when the coalition parties (which won almost every election until then) of the left sabotaged themselves to get rid of their leader, Ferenc Gyurcsány, who in turn sabotaged his party and coalition. From the chaos Viktor emerged with absolute mandate (over 51% of the votes) and immediately used to gerrymander the country to the point when in the last election cycle he received over 70% of parliamentary seats with only 43% of the votes! -He also made the parliament right of overseeing public constructions useless (he made donations to sport teams a legit expense), the laundered money then found its way back to the party which was used to buy out every TV news channel. Giving them the power to largely control the narrative. -But perchance the largest reason was, that until now we didn’t really have a leader of the opposition! The before mentioned endless funds were used to buy the rising political leaders or their teams, and the before mentioned news empire was used to destroy the reputation of any contendor. Peter Magyar, the now leader of the largest opposition party, is kinda foolproof in this way as he was the past husband of the former minister of justice (Varga Judit)! Virtually being a party member until very recently gives him the armor of:”Your former party member did whaaaat?”, limiting the Fidesz-s ability to fabricate a proper hate campaign ag his name
Has Fidesz claimed that the crowd is photoshopped yet? It’s what the populists always do in Germany.
Soros.
The 1% is a lot more people than I realized.
It’s just George Soros, all the way. Different genders, clothing, but still just Soros
As a wise person said not long ago: “the regime is trying to appear strong as granite, but in reality it’s made of toilet paper”.
BASED. TAKE THAT FASCISTS. LGBTQIA+ PEOPLE WILL NEVER SURRENDER.
So many semi famous people there as well, the leader of the French greens, a famous Austrian Youtuber about modern history…
Lots of left politicians from my country there as well (and it’s quite far from Hungary)
Also from mine, unfortunately the “left” from my country is useless.
Terry Reintke <3
That does in fact look huge. Fantastic news!
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Holy cow. That’s awesome! I hope it went as well as possible and no one who participated gets in any trouble due to it or anything. 🤞
I read Obama I was so confused.
I’m not a big fan of gay pride parades, but in this case I’m a huge fan. I’m glad to see that the harder you kick them down, the harder they bounce back. Fuck Orban!
Based on your other comment, it would make sense for you to say “I’m not a fan of parades, gatherings, or holidays” moreso in the future
You point that out now, and it’s glaringly obvious. But somehow, when I’m writing down my thoughts, it doesn’t even pop my mind that something is badly phrased.
Why aren’t you a big fan (serious question)?
Remember you said “serious question”, so you’lk get a serious answer… It’s just the whole energy of it all. I don’t like it when people go “look at me, I deserve to be seen”. I get it, it’s about human rights and whatnot, but I just don’t like it. It makes me extremely uncofortable. To me it’s the same when someone in restaurant starts making a scene because something didn’t go the way they want. I don’t mean the entitlement, of course, but the confidence and the publicity of it all. It’s the complete polar opposite of who I am.
I mean, you do you, fine by me, but you’re gonna have to do it without me.
But not in this case. There’s a real emergency in Hunagry that needs to be protested and a pride parade is a very appropriate way to do it. So I would attend this one, if I had the means and oppertunity to do that.
I used to feel like you do. then I had someone explain it to me like this.
every year Christians gather the whole months of November and December to celebrate the birth of their savior. they hang decorations, they show ads on TV, they go around singing their songs to the neighborhood, they play their songs in every single store. for eight weeks this goes on. they do this to feel comfort and unity during this time, and for 10 long months they look forward to this time. to some it can literally be the only thing that makes them carry on.
for disenfranchised LGBTQA+ people pride month is the exact same, and if we can accept Christmas for eight weeks, we can accept gay pride for four.
8 weeks? Really?
Where I live people usually start going about it in September or October till mid fucking January. Or at least the supermarkets/advertisements start that. Remember Jesus? Time to waste money, give it to us!
I feel you. Making a racket feels like those influencers who do stuff just for views. It’s understandable why it exists; some people have a really hard time imagining different people exist and that it’s not inherently bad to be different. Some people really need it to be shoved in their face to understand, unfortunately.
However, for people like me, who don’t need the lesson or exposure, it’s just another big noisy event. It’s crowded, it’s noisy, trash gets left behind everywhere, … those are the days I either stay inside or go on a trip to a quieter place.
Thank you for explaining that, I always appreciate other insights.
I think there’s a difference between saying “you do you”, “you’re gonna have to do it without me” and saying you actively dislike it. Be prepared for that to be an unpopular opinion. :)
For a second I thought it was decent sized anti trump rally…should have know better
This is the European community bro.
- Wasn’t there one in New York just this week (and in diffrent states)?
- This is a community about europe, why would you expect info about an anti trump rally in here?
I’m just browsing “All”. Didn’t pay attention to the group The US did have some huge (for the US) rallies but nothing the size Europe has
