• southerntofu@lemmy.ml
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    3 years ago

    vassal state Israel

    I’m not saying you’re wrong suggesting USA and Israel (and France and some others) work hand-in-hand, but Israel is not exactly a vassal state. It’s got political autonomy, a strong military industrial complex of its own, and of course its own colonies.

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      3 years ago

      Maybe you have a point if we were to get all nerdy. Idk really, to me Israel looks like a vassal state considering how you see USA’s control over Middle East plays out. Israel and Saudi Arabia have a very similar kind of relationship with USA, just differing in terms of mutual cyberwar and oil trade benefits respectively. Both also misuse their military, both of which also work closely with USA.

      We can find nuances all day, but we do have a rough estimate of how they work, and in all it is really horrible for the world.

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        Agree with all those statements, but none of those exclusively nor as a combination make Israel a vassal state. What you just described is an ally state.

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          3 years ago

          Israel derives a lot of its threatening power not by itself, but by USA’s proxy might. Remember when USA backed out during the recent Israel-Palestine conflict, and Russia threatened Israel to stop bombing Palestinians? Israel sat quiet quickly.