I don’t think you understand what good infrastructure looks like
i don’t think you understand what kinetic energy is. is you claim it is about safety, then bus doing 50 km/h is far more dangerous than passenger car in the same speed.
There are literally millions of drunk tourists here every year and they’re fine.
and these drunk tourists… are they also getting hit by a car?
By your logic airplanes are EXTREMELY dangerous to pedestrians because they go ~800km/h and would instantly kill anyone they hit.
Sure getting hit by a bus is more deadly than getting hit by a bicycle, but if your odds of getting hit are essentially zero then that chances the equation.
Again, I don’t think you understand what good infrastructure looks like, what city would you say you’ve spent time in that has the best infrastructure in your opinion?
By your logic airplanes are EXTREMELY dangerous to pedestrians because they go ~800km/h and would instantly kill anyone they hit.
it is not my logic, logic is mathematical discipline, it doesn’t really belong to anyone.
airplanes indeed ARE extremely dangerous to pedestrians on runway. not so much in the air, which is largely due to the fact that pedestrians can’t fly.
the same can’t be said for buses driving on the same streets as cars where their path often crosses with those of pedestrians. so why should bus be allowed to drive faster, having significantly larger kinetic energy and be therefor be far more dangerous in case of collision? why do you think that chances of getting hit by a bus are effectively zero? do buses in amsterdam levitate in a same way airplanes do? i have never been to amsterdam, so maybe it’s a thing there?
if you manage to get hit by a bus in Amsterdam you really fucked up.
if you managed to get git by a car you have also fucked up.
and these drunk tourists… are they also getting hit by a car?
The speed and size doesn’t matter if the odds of them hitting something is essentially zero.
No these drunk tourists aren’t getting hit by cars because the infrastructure and roads are properly designed with pedestrians and bicyclists as top priority.
If you manage to get hit by a car you didn’t necessarily fuck up, lots of cities like in the US are extremely dangerous to walk because cars are passing really close to pedestrians at high speeds.
It all comes down to road design and infrastructure.
You say I ignored your question, you ignored mine.
You don’t know what good infrastructure looks like.
Prove me wrong, What city have you lived in with good infrastructure?
not how it works, you finding it hard to come up with answers to questions regarding your point does not mean i am missing it.
cities i have lived in are none of your business.
why do you think that chance of being hit by a bus are “essentially zero”? and why is it different from the cars in the same city on the same roads, aka THE SAME INFRASTRUCTURE - no matter how good or bad?
if drunken tourists aren’t getting hit by a car because of good infrastructure, why is there a need to lower their speed and why does the same need does not apply to buses?
Busses and trams often have their own lanes where they can go the speed they want
Well that makes sense.
You’re much less likely to die when hit by a speeding bus than a slow car.
Yeah, I usually hear about speed limits as a time savings vs. safety issue. And in that sense it would apply to both.
I don’t think you understand what good infrastructure looks like, if you manage to get hit by a bus in Amsterdam you really fucked up.
There are literally millions of drunk tourists here every year and they’re fine.
i don’t think you understand what kinetic energy is. is you claim it is about safety, then bus doing 50 km/h is far more dangerous than passenger car in the same speed.
and these drunk tourists… are they also getting hit by a car?
By your logic airplanes are EXTREMELY dangerous to pedestrians because they go ~800km/h and would instantly kill anyone they hit.
Sure getting hit by a bus is more deadly than getting hit by a bicycle, but if your odds of getting hit are essentially zero then that chances the equation.
Again, I don’t think you understand what good infrastructure looks like, what city would you say you’ve spent time in that has the best infrastructure in your opinion?
it is not my logic, logic is mathematical discipline, it doesn’t really belong to anyone.
airplanes indeed ARE extremely dangerous to pedestrians on runway. not so much in the air, which is largely due to the fact that pedestrians can’t fly.
the same can’t be said for buses driving on the same streets as cars where their path often crosses with those of pedestrians. so why should bus be allowed to drive faster, having significantly larger kinetic energy and be therefor be far more dangerous in case of collision? why do you think that chances of getting hit by a bus are effectively zero? do buses in amsterdam levitate in a same way airplanes do? i have never been to amsterdam, so maybe it’s a thing there?
if you managed to get git by a car you have also fucked up.
you forgot to answer this question
Your completely missing my point.
The speed and size doesn’t matter if the odds of them hitting something is essentially zero.
No these drunk tourists aren’t getting hit by cars because the infrastructure and roads are properly designed with pedestrians and bicyclists as top priority.
If you manage to get hit by a car you didn’t necessarily fuck up, lots of cities like in the US are extremely dangerous to walk because cars are passing really close to pedestrians at high speeds.
It all comes down to road design and infrastructure.
You say I ignored your question, you ignored mine.
You don’t know what good infrastructure looks like. Prove me wrong, What city have you lived in with good infrastructure?
not how it works, you finding it hard to come up with answers to questions regarding your point does not mean i am missing it.
cities i have lived in are none of your business.
why do you think that chance of being hit by a bus are “essentially zero”? and why is it different from the cars in the same city on the same roads, aka THE SAME INFRASTRUCTURE - no matter how good or bad?
if drunken tourists aren’t getting hit by a car because of good infrastructure, why is there a need to lower their speed and why does the same need does not apply to buses?
I know, I was just being glib.