• Zerush@lemmy.mlOP
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    3 years ago

    This has already happened since Mozilla sold its soul to the devil Google

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      3 years ago

      Well, on the other hand, did you give them the needed cash or donations? It is not like Mozilla employees can live on air and water vapour. And it is not either like Firefox has some Google spyware embedded into the code that you cannot remove.

      Firefox is the base for Tor Browser, and that is what it is.

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        You can make money online without surveillance advertising, it’s a very bad habit which put Google and his advertising companies (Alphabet, NEST, etc) in control of the network, making money with the privacy and security of the user. You can opt out of this surveillance, but only to request it directly in Alphabet Inc with your personal data, nice.

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          But there is no tunnelling of data to Google happening, while you use Firefox? Firefox itself is not giving your data to Google. You can turn off Safebrowsing feature if you like, that is not spyware.

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                3 years ago

                Most user can’t, apart this change nothing if you sync in Mozilla, a advanced user can modify the script in FF, but not in Mozilla. Simply download FF from Mozilla.org, Google profile you, also in the updates.

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                  Most user can’t…

                  So you admit that you can, and that if the user chooses to, they can pursue privacy.

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                    Do you think it’s desirable to have to modify the browser script to make it private, something that normally should be an option in the configuration for any user? Apart from this, also do without sync, or using a third-party server? Don’t make sense

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      But they had the google deal for years, right? Was all of Mozilla bad over those years? I’d argue they did a lot of good as well.

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        FF is a good browser without a doubt and one of those wich most respect privacy, but they must rethink their business model before the dependency of Google is a way without return.

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          limited and respectful advertisement from Firefox (or any free service) would be something i could tolerate and approve (as in NPR radio for example)

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            Agree, but limited and respectful advertisements given by Alphabet are a oximoron. FF don’t select the companies which recive the data from Alphabet, selected by user activity. That is the sense of surveillance advertisings, if you enter in a page to consult for a good Hotel, after this you’ll see advertisings of Hotels, travel agencies and other nearby to you, if you don’t block them. But all these companies know that you are searching a good Hotel. Do you know how these companies protect this data? You don’t, and this is the risk, in the worst case someone knows that you are planning a travel and you are out of your home a given day. In the past it had ocurred several times the filtering of user data, among them medical and banking data in this way. Surveilolance advertising is a crime, not a legitim manner to create incommings, less for a FOSS which claims with privacy.

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              I agree : surveillance advertisings is the worst kind & i would not trust advertising from Google, so Mozilla doing business with Google bad news.
              Now, founding remains an open question