The Ukrainian president warned airlines, insurers and foreign governments that the growing scale of Kyiv’s drone operations would make Russian airspace increasingly unsafe for aircraft.

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      Anyone still hanging on to that russian fairy tale must be either missing around half a brain or getting paid by the FSB.

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        Russia doesn’t pay those guys; just like it doesn’t pay the Alberta hillbillies it lies to about separation and ‘RoC’ and other conservative slop.

        It pays the bot farms.

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          Russia pays the bot farms and some of the mouthpieces. Tim Pool and his ilk that got caught taking money from Moscow.

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          Holy crap they do. I just bumped into a bunch in technology. One guy told me Russia is a victim of "imperialist encirclement ". I was just commenting on a supposed laser weapon they may or may not have.

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            Which is in fact true, this is part of the US‘s pivot to Asia (since Obama). If you‘d care you could read about that stuff in their National Security Strategy papers, like the one from 2022 under Biden and from 2025 under Trump.

            China is the main threat for western Capitalism, most importantly for the US Empire, as they are the currency monopoly, military bully and world hegemon. Russia as the strongest ally of China protects China‘s northern land mass border just by existing. For that it‘s important to balkanize Russia (the U.S. Helsinki Commission actually calls it „Decolonizing Russia: A Moral and Strategic Imperative“). This means to forcefully break the country up into smaller, more manageable regions.

            Anyway, the general idea for Europe is to take care of Russia, so the US is able to focus on the indo-pacific, meaning China. It‘s the geo-strategic reality of the western block to remain (or regain) world dominance. It‘s capitalism in it‘s highest stage, imperialism.

            This is a very common political analysis, not only shared by communists. It‘s just that most folks on lemmy are basing their political understanding on vibes and what western corporate media tells them. It‘s a choice to go beyond that.

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              I fail to see how that makes it okay for Putin’s Russia to commit the atrocities it has, and continues to.

              Even purely from the Russian POV, the repercussions of the economic damage being inflicted, the sheer number of working age men being ground to paste, will hold the country back for generations to come.

              Beyond that, it gives the rest of the world justification to tighten the noose faster than ever.

              To gain what exactly? Bearing in mind we’re into what, year 5? of the “3 day Special Military Operation”.

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                Curious, you are the very “folks on Lemmy (that) are basing their political understanding on vibes and what western corporate media tells them.”
                If you’re unable to see, I’d suggest to do something against that. Maybe see a doctor, get a service dog or something.

                I’m not sure what to tell you, that will satisfy you (there’s nothing, because you’re weird like that). You’re commenting that on a post about the Ukrainian president openly threatening to commit state terrorism, while you are also defending that by whatabouting with some weird ass “but they did it first” with questionable logic in another comment, merely reproducing western narratives.

                I don’t think you understand the Russian POV, or that of any state outside the imperial core for that matter, because I don’t believe you even take these states seriously at all. All I see is chauvinism.

                Beyond that, the rest of the world, outside of the western block, is not tightening any noose on Russia, quite the contrary, as they understand, that this is a proxy war and NATO is actively working to destroy the country for their own ambitions towards world domination since well over a decade now, using Ukraine as a battleground to do so.

                To gain what exactly?

                Ya, I think I answered that with my previous comment. Maybe read it again and try to understand its contents.

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                  Behold the tankie, who uses their big ol’ unpropagandized brain to cartwheel through a series of sociopolitical facts that sound like they’re relevant to the conversation but that if you think through for more than a few seconds, you realize are not actually saying anything

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                    (…) cartwheel through a series of sociopolitical facts that (…) are not actually saying anything

                    So, as you surely don’t want to end up not actually saying anything … what are the things that are facts, but also don’t mean anything and why do they not mean anything in the context of this conversation?

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              Which is in fact true

              It does get very tiresome to see people reject decades of Cold War and post-Soviet collapse history, because the (US-backed) fascist dictator of Russia turned on his western handlers.

              Anyway, the general idea for Europe is to take care of Russia, so the US is able to focus on the indo-pacific, meaning China. It‘s the geo-strategic reality of the western block to remain (or regain) world dominance. It‘s capitalism in it‘s highest stage, imperialism.

              Okay, but have you considered that China Bad and we need to save all those good-hearted, liberty-loving, free-market Australians and Philippians and Taiwanese from the oppressive yoke of The Red Dragon?

              It‘s just that most folks on lemmy are basing their political understanding on vibes and what western corporate media tells them.

              Nonsense. I’m immune to propaganda because I’m smart.

              Only you idiot tankies have been fooled.

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                I’m immune to propaganda because I’m smart.

                That’s not how that works. A smart person would recognize that there are degrees of smartness and degrees of immunity. Even if we accept that smarter people are less susceptible to propaganda, there is no threshold of smartness that grants immunity to propaganda.

                The most important service one can provide to a kind-of-smart person is to tell them when they’ve said something stupid. I’m happy to provide this service. Please rate 5 stars.

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                  A smart person would recognize that there are degrees of smartness and degrees of immunity.

                  And I’m the smartest person, therefore I enjoy the maximum amount of immunity.

                  there is no threshold of smartness that grants immunity to propaganda.

                  Just be smarter, idiot.

                  The most important service one can provide to a kind-of-smart person is to tell them when they’ve said something stupid.

                  Impossible for me to say something stupid. It is actually stupid to suggest what I said wasn’t the Immaculate Truth as Delivered By God.

                  The only people who would suggest what I said wasn’t stupid are

                  a) Idiots

                  b) A vast and sinister conspiracy of malicious actors attempting to destroy me, everyone I hold dear, and my country.

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      But Ukraine IS a nazi state! They do nazi civilians as valid targets, they do nazi committing war crimes as a positive, they certainly do nazi Russians having any success in Ukraine!

      ;-)

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        I thought the script was that Europeans are all Nazis and the only true democracy is the USSR and it’s faithful and loving Father Stalin/Lennon/Putin. /S

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          Well Russia started the war so obviously they’ve got to be the innocent ones, stands to reason.

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        Lots of countries have ignorant dick heads. The key is to not let them be in charge.

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      The entire world is taking a hard fascist turn. Trying to single out any one country misses the forest for the trees.

      But if you’re wondering why people were extremely leery at Ukraine early on, well… there are reasons. Still, much more of a problem with Canadian fascists than Ukrainian ones.

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            Pretending like you actually care about Ukrainians is wild. Did you know only one country can unilaterally end the war whenever they want?

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              You mean the US? The Zelensky regime?

              It’s rich, tho, that you pretend to care about Ukrainians, as you find excuses to extend the war effort and with that keep feeding Ukrainian men into the meat grinder against their will, by kidnapping them off the streets. You could advocate for negotiations, but borders are more important to you, than human live. You don’t give the slightest shit about the Ukrainians.

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                You’re literally a western propagandist. You think the US and NATO are so insanely powerful that poor little Russia had no choice but to throw away hundreds of thousands of lives and huge portions of their Soviet stockpile to defend themselves from the evil imperialists. Putin has absolutely no agency and no capability of, yknow, not invading another country.

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                  Interesting answer. So, do you actually care for Ukrainian lives?

                  You’re literally a western propagandist. (yap yap yap)

                  Haha.

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              You should rebut me with another one of your funny memes that makes light of millions of people dying to really undersell your point.