that’s really awesome!
what other ways are there to seduce users?
Also, I feel like it’s something people probably don’t wanna talk about, but a lot of Reddit’s appeal is in NSFW content - so a NSFW instance would also likely increase users.
I feel lemmy just needs a general instance, for all people, no matter beliefs or nothing
Something like that would definitely be an instance we would host, so do apply if you would like to run it. Though the instance would probably have to exclude politics, otherwise it will get too controversial.
The politics part is understandable, although would one have to know any coding language?
No coding necessary at all.
Shared here.
We, a hosting cooperative in Germany, mentioned Lemmy in a book about free software that we published two weeks before. It is in German and targets clubs, non-profits, foundations and cooperatives. It’s free to download. https://www.hostsharing.net/publikationen/vereinshandbuch/
I really like your idea of promoting Lemmy by providing a limited free hosting offer. It gives people the chance to find sustainable funding.
In the book mentioned above we recommended Lemmy as a forum solution. Many organisations like clubs are looking for something like discourse or flarum to replace a mailing list for discussions or a community help desk. If an organisation uses Lemmy for inhouse needs giving accounts to all members the instance is funded by the organisation – and thanks to federation the users can join communities elsewhere too.
This is the organisational approach to sustainable Lemmy instances.
If there is no organisation that pays the bills, I have to look for funding elsewhere, as users won’t pay. I have to pass the hat around. But this is not sustainable at all.
Or I could go the usual internet way using ads to fund the instance. Is there a function in Lemmy that could be used as an advertising tool? A broadcast message by the administrator that is published to all accounts. Can instance administrators pin messages in communities? Or can administrators promote messages so that they get higher ranks?
I think of a Lemmy instance for a hobby targeting a community of consumers and producers where the producers are willing to pay for advertised postings.
First, I want to say thank you for making Lemmy and for running this instance!
But, this “promotion initiative” strikes me as questionable idea for two reasons:
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Having many instances hosted on the same infrastructure defeats a lot of the purpose of the federated model. If/when this infrastructure goes down for whatever reason, many instances will be affected.
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If I understand your offer correctly, you’re actually only offering free hosting for one year? So, after a year, if the admins aren’t able to provide their own infrastructure, will you stop running their instances? This seems like it will inevitably leave a lot of users with a very negative impression of lemmy, when all of their posts and comments evaporate in to thin air.
Maybe the overlap between the set of people who are capable of running their own server and the set of people who would use a service like this is larger than I’m imagining, but I’m quite certain there are a lot of people in the second set who are not in the first.
It seems to me that a better approach would be to focus on making it as easy as possible to deploy lemmy, to encourage more instances on diverse infrastructure. (I see you already already have Docker, Ansible, and AWS instructions; as an aside, I recommend replacing the AWS instructions with a note recommending that users boycott Amazon…)
The time limit of one year is exactly because we dont want to host these instances forever, and centralize the project in that way. If the instances become popular and get many users, surely there will be someone willing to host them. If they are small and no one wants to host them, the content cant be that important. Besides, content will be mirrored on federated instances.
If you would like to improve the documentation, that would be very welcome, repo is here. However, i dont think its the right place to call for boycotts, or other political stuff like that.
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Maybe not completely on-topic, but I wanted to ask what sort of resource requirements a Lemmy instance requires. I have a Kubernetes cluster I run for my business, so if it is not too heavy, I may be able to put an instance up with my excess resources. Thanks.
Its really lightweight, 150 mb ram and quite low cpu usage with default docker install.
Thanks, I’ll look into getting one up then.
Question: it is possible to “migrate” a community from an instance to another?
Not in an automated way. You would have to tell them to subscribe to the new community, and unsubscribe from the old one.
Possibly a future feature? The Internet’s history is, after all, littered with the refuse of failed communities. It would be sad for Lemmy to hasten that issue. It would also help communities graduate from attaching to another instance to being their own instance if there was a social split (e.g. moderation decisions) or they outgrew their host instance.
Also this is one of the most important feature (for me) on the fediverse. If an instance “goes bad” it’s good transfer all on other istance. By the way my question was in this topic because i already have 100followers on my community and this is one of the reason can’t open another istance if i can’t import all the followers.
That is actually a very good point, i never thought about it in that way. The main question about this is probably how it should work from a UX perspective. One way would be to have a mod action which changes the subscription of all users to the new community. But there would be a risk that a hacker could target mod accounts, to redirect users to his own community/instance for malicious purposes. We could send a notification to users to inform them about the change. And the old community might have to be locked or deleted (permanently or reversible?)
The profile move section here for mastodon seems relevant.
We’d have to support a “move” activity that followers would receive, and it could overwrite their database with the new community url, and refollow.
This should probably be limited to the top mod.
All this is also predicated on that instance still being alive, and long enough for that move request to get federated everywhere.
This would be really difficult, and a ton of work, all just so people wouldn’t have to click the subscribe button for a community resurrected elsewhere. So I’m not sure its really worth it.
