For like a month or two I decided, screw it, I am going to use all the programs I cannot use on Linux. This was mostly games and music making software.

I guess it was fun for a bit, tries different DAWs, did not play a single game because no time.

Basically, it was not worth it. The only thing I enjoyed was OneDrive, because having your files available anywhere is dope, but I also hate it because it wants to delete your local files. I think that was on me.

Anyways, I am back. Looking at Nextcloud. Looking at Ardour. I am fine paying for software, but morally I got to support and learn the tools that are available to me and respect FOSS. (Also less expensive… spent a lot on my experiment).

Anyone done this? Abondoned their principles thinking the grass would be greener, but only to look at their feet coverered in crap (ads, intrusive news, just bad UI).

I don’t know. I don’t necesarily regret it, but I won’t be doing it again. What I spent is a sunk cost, but some has linux support, and VSTs for download. So, I shall see.

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    Trying to figure anything out in Linux is an absolute shit show because every support document presumes you’re a software engineer and uses all sorts of vocabulary I don’t have or understand. If it doesn’t work, I don’t try to fix it, I just move on or fire up Windows and do it.

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      A lot of documentation suppose, you like to know what you doing and why.

      But if u do an tldr, and focus on the command lines, its often working out of the box and its like following an tutorial with picture to tell you where to click. Supposing you reading the good tuto regarding your distribution.

      I like the doc, I feel it like respect.

      I feel it like, they don’t suppose I’m an engineer but they suppose I have an brain an can learn new principles or acquire new vocabulary (one of the life’s constant in a way) to understand what I do. And often theses principles can be applied elsewhere, even IRL sometimes.

      I’m not an engineer XD.

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          I think they’re trying to say that a lot of the time reading the documentation treats you as if you’re an expert in that particular topic, but if you can find a good guide it will usually give you all the information and commands you need to accomplish what you wanted to do. They go on to say they prefer guides that respect the user’s intelligence while not making things overly complex.

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            Unfortunately I am not an intelligent user.

            I often try to follow commands in guides and then it gives me a generic error like “command not found” and I have no idea what to do with that information or where to go next.

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              It doesn’t necessarily mean you aren’t intelligent but perhaps you’re trying to do things you would do in Windows without having a foundational knowledge of Linux. Linux is not a drop-in replacement for Windows, it’s a totally different operating system with different ways of doing things.

              In this example situation you are talking about it’s the equivalent of if I asked you to edit an image in Photoshop but you didn’t have it installed. That’s what “command not found” is trying to tell you. It’s not found because it’s not installed on the system.

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                perhaps you’re trying to do things you would do in Windows without having a foundational knowledge of Linux

                I never needed a “foundational knowledge” of Windows, though. Like there are some basic things you have to learn but I used it for 30 years and no one ever asked me to open a terminal, which is the first thing everyone tells you to do in Linux.

                That’s what “command not found” is trying to tell you.

                I understand what it means, I just don’t know what to do with it.

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                  Of course you need a foundational knowledge of Windows before you are able to accomplish certain tasks. You are not born with the knowledge of how to operate a computer. Even people who have not used computers before struggle with basic tasks. If I ask someone who is new to Windows to install Photoshop will they be able to accomplish it with no prior knowledge? You have to know you open the web browser, navigation to the proper website, download the installer, run the installer, find the menu shortcut, etc.

                  As for how to install programs on Linux it does depend on the distribution and the application you wish to install but let’s take Ubuntu for example. If I want to install VLC I would type sudo apt install vlc. If I want to install Firefox I would type sudo apt install firefox. Instructions should be available online with a quick search.

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                    it does depend on the distribution and the application you wish to install

                    Yes, that’s part of the problem. Not only do I have to find a solution for whatever is being fucky at the time from some obscure forum where someone figured out a solution, but I have to find someone who has done so on the same distro as me. Otherwise all the commands people throw at them just return a generic error.

                    Then people tell you “don’t run these commands if you don’t know what they do!”. Okay well fuck me I guess because I have no clue what I’m doing at any given time and no one explains it.

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                  Depending on the distro you don’t actually need terminal, I certainly can’t remember the last time I used it, it’s a nice tool, but to many tutorials act as if it’s the only way of doing everything

                  Also, it’s been 30 years sense you started using windows, of course you don’t remember what it was like to use it at the start, everyone has to learn to use a new system, same goes for someone who switched to windows from Linux

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                    Depending on the distro you don’t actually need terminal

                    Yes. You do. And I’m really not interested in having this debate again because it always ends the same: denial.