But I. What way is a screen recorder under X11 working any different than a trojan. It records the screen without any restrictions and without having to ask for any permissions.
No, the compositor is the Wayland server, similar to the X server. It is not a random program snooping the screen, and under Wayland that is not possible. To get access to the screen, you have to use apis to explicitly ask for that access, and the user must approve the request.
Under X, any program can snoop the screen and do what the like with it.
It records the screen without any restrictions and without having to ask for any permissions.
Which is exactly the requirements you need to remote desktop access via tools like meshcentral, anydesk… I don’t understand this mentality of “X11 was broken!!!”. Yeah well Wayland is broken since it stops legitimate uses as well.
No, there are remote desktop, screen recording, just in a secure and controlled way. Letting any application read your screen and snoop your keyboard without restriction may be convenient, but it is just horrible in so many ways.
If your preferred tool doesn’t work under Wayland, it is most likely not because of limitations of Wayland (there are such cases, but they are getting quite rare) but because they haven’t implemented support for it.
Not sure what vlc would help with. So I have to use a very specific DE in order to get the functionality? Does this really sound like the linux way to you? Getting forced to use particular stuff to get something to work?
Other DE also have remote access, KDE have it, wlroot based also. There is a thing called Google that you can use to find out about these things if it is important to you.
But I. What way is a screen recorder under X11 working any different than a trojan. It records the screen without any restrictions and without having to ask for any permissions.
By that logic, is the compositor working any different than a trojan? Is there really a difference?
The Wayland compositor is always capturing all your keyboard and mouse as well. No permissions asked. Pretty sus.
No, the compositor is the Wayland server, similar to the X server. It is not a random program snooping the screen, and under Wayland that is not possible. To get access to the screen, you have to use apis to explicitly ask for that access, and the user must approve the request. Under X, any program can snoop the screen and do what the like with it.
Which is exactly the requirements you need to remote desktop access via tools like meshcentral, anydesk… I don’t understand this mentality of “X11 was broken!!!”. Yeah well Wayland is broken since it stops legitimate uses as well.
No, there are remote desktop, screen recording, just in a secure and controlled way. Letting any application read your screen and snoop your keyboard without restriction may be convenient, but it is just horrible in so many ways. If your preferred tool doesn’t work under Wayland, it is most likely not because of limitations of Wayland (there are such cases, but they are getting quite rare) but because they haven’t implemented support for it.
Care to share some then? Specifically ones that allow remote control without local access to grant permission.
Gnome have built o RDP and vlc https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Mutter/RemoteDesktop
Not sure what vlc would help with. So I have to use a very specific DE in order to get the functionality? Does this really sound like the linux way to you? Getting forced to use particular stuff to get something to work?
Other DE also have remote access, KDE have it, wlroot based also. There is a thing called Google that you can use to find out about these things if it is important to you.
I intended to write vnc… sorry for the confusion.