so if you haven’t come across it, see here , here , here and here .

in short, one side says sources are pro-imperialist, the other side believes they’re legitimate sources. then there is one user thinking we have been targeted by troll farms, one accusing others of being conspiracy theorists and stuff like that. it’s one of the most unproductive arguements I’ve seen on Lemmy, something that looks like one those downvoted-to-oblivian threads on reddit. it’s just a mess.

I think we can do a few things to prevent such pointless fights in the future:

  1. my favoriate response would be creating a community of fact-checker Lemmurs. it’ll function similar to a wikipedia talk page, anyone can request a trial for an article shared on c/worldnews , then they will present evidence and sources to challenge the article, while the other side attempts to do the same. personal attacks, accusing of being a troll, asking for a call on jitsi to debate face to face (like seriously?!?!) will be forbidden. both sides will debate untill they reach an agreement. trying to go off-topic, bad faith arguements etc will be forbidden as well.

each time we reach a conclusion, a positive or negative point will be assigned to news source and to the person who posted it. best contributers who show the least bias will get a point as well. overtime it will help us to see if a source is really good or not.

  1. a much easier approch would be to let downvotes and upvotes decide the fate of each post. I understand that this is the whole point of lemmy and similar platforms, but right now we have the problem of each side using downvotes and upvotes like it’s a battle. posts about internet censoreship and tiny pigs are being downvoted because the person who posts them trusts the Guardian and other news outlets.

  2. we can limit the number of posts on c/worldnews to minimize the amount of personal attacks and arguements.

so what do you think? I personally think as more users come to lemmy, we’ll be dealling with more diverse opinions, and people might just engage in behaviors that harms the platform and benefits no one. this will be a real problem considering that Lemmy leans far-left. in my opinion having a fact-checking community will be neccessary if we don’t want fact-based communities turn into battlefields.

ps: am I going too far and overreacting? to be honest I don’t know xD I just think there’s no chance for productive political arguements if we can’t agree on the facts, and i see no point in what’s happening on c/worldnews right now.

  • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
    11·
    4 years ago

    Why are you so biased, and were you not going to ignore all of my posts and comments? Were you not claiming to be calm enough to interact with me?

    The fact is, you will always keep claiming Western sources and theologists (not scientists) as credible sources, and you will claim China’s universities as also CPC shills even if you get the evidence served on a silver platter.

    And the fact that your scales have already been tilted by Western propaganda media, by creating the narrative in your head that all governments have to be bad and evil, and every government must do same actions as USA murders ethnicities worldwide else its all fake news, tells you are already brainwashed by them.

    I bet you think the Tankman was crushed during Tiananmen Square incident, when CNN’s footage dismisses it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeFzeNAHEhU

    This narrative, that “I love China but hate CCP” is so full of bullshit, when according to Harvard’s survey over 2 decades with in-person interactions tells 95% Chinese citizens approve of their government. And that rating only rose to 98% with COVID pandemic handling.

    Almost none of your paragraphs are factual, because their foundation is Western propaganda media outlets, like CFR, Murdoch, USAGM, Bilderberg news outlets. They have funding from countries that have perpetrated genocides on foreign land over the past multiple decades.

    Please unbrainwash yourself before trying to discuss politics and world affairs with me. I hate when I have to play chess with pigeons.

    And as of making that post, one, I was with my family until yesterday night, busy, and two, I was unsure why soferman’s activity dipped suddenly and was waiting to check if anyone was bothered enough for it to become a topic of discussion again. Because of your callout, I will make the post today, not needing to assess the situation any further.

    • Helix@lemmy.ml
      11·
      4 years ago

      You’re deflecting, you don’t have any arguments and you directly attack me. I did my research, reviewed the sources linked in the video you linked (because you can’t link to primary sources yourself, apparently) and explained my viewpoint.

      I wrote nothing about what you project my views to be. Neither did I write I love China and hate the CCP, nor that all governments have to be evil, nor that some guy was crushed by some tank, nor that only Western sources are good ones. You make one logical fallacy after the other, whataboutism being your favourite, throwing red herrings another. It’s pointless to answer these.