Israel doesn’t care about their citizens, they’re carpet bombing Gaza and flooding tunnels they know the hostages are in. They had the option to just do a hostage exchange since day one. This is some mixture of annexation and Netanyahu trying to hold on to power.
In what universe do you live? Hamas pulled out of the continuing the hostage exchange. Israel wanted women returned but Hamas wouldn’t agree…let’s be honest it’s because all the rape and torture would make their propaganda war tricky
Hamas’s cited reason was that Israel was demanding female soldiers, while the terms of the “pause” dictated the exchange of civilians. It seemed like Israel simply wanted an excuse to continue bombing.
let’s be honest it’s because all the rape and torture would make their propaganda war tricky
Let’s be honest about this having no substantiation at present and being based on Israeli and U.S. State Dept propaganda. Honestly it’s disgusting how quickly people will resort to insinuations like this.
I know! All those raped (verified by Hamas body cam footage) on Oct 7 and people start to think Hamas are going to keep raping the hostages when they get them back to gaza. What a crazy leap right?!
Hamas cares even less for the lives of Gaza civilians. They cowardly hide in their tunnels, take humanitarian supplies by force from the population and shoot at Gazans when they try to escape from their human shield purpose.
All of these crimes have been documented and you can find them online. Hamas is a dictatorship jihadistic organization who controls the population by fear
No, they don’t deserve it. If you were Israel, and 1200 of your people would have been murdered, raped and 400 were taken hostages, what would you do differently?
Not detaining Palestinians in undisclosed locations
Not starving the population
Not bombing hospitals, mosques, and the few fucking churches there.
Negotiate peace with Palestinians and restore their full rights
A one state solution where everyone gets to vote, as they always should have been allowed to
What would you do “differently” since those Gazans don’t deserve to die in a crowded hospital after a failing amputation attempt because there are no meds and Israel is shelling outside?
Btw I just want to say that 17 thousand of my “people” have already been killed by Israel since I’m Palestinian.
Hmmm seems like you pull this shit out of your ass, I’m very critical of Hamas.
A one state solution because it was always a single land, where all Palestinans and Jews can be equal. What part of that bothers you?
PS: notice how you just brushed aside the suffering of all Palestinians to come and talk about Hamas. Using Hamas as an excuse for genocide is no better than an excuse for the holocaust or for apartheid. It’s quite disgusting how easily you can just forget the deaths of many innocent people or think that October 7th somehow justifies a second Nakba and a second holocaust.
This seems to be a typical Hasbara account (the Israeli equivalent to Putin trolls).
They keep saying Gaza is not an open air prison. But would they agree to live there for a year like an average civilian?
Would they support the right of Palestine to exist? Would they support the Palestinian right to self determination as people? Do they think Palestinians should have the right to live in their homes?
The answer to all of these questions would be a lot of Blabla leading to an eventual no for an answer. Therefore it makes little sense to interact with these accounts, except for the purpose of calling out their BS
Personally, I definitely support the right of Palestinians to exist. They should have their own state and live peacefully side by side to Israel. Unfortunately both Israelis and Palestinians are plagued by horrible leadership that prevent any of this from happening
How can you live side by side with a state that tortures kids in prison? I mean how do you live peacefully and with dignity in a state that - - through its different leaderships since it’s founding days - - has been detaining people illegally? That doesn’t believe in Palestinians’ right to return or right to a decent life? How do you live side by side your murderers and jailers and torturers when they make no attempt to punish the wrongdoers or the settlers or all those assholes in the IDF who humiliate Palestinians at every chance? I’m seriously asking.
I do not brush aside the suffering of Palestinians. Both populations are screwed over by bad leadership.
However, Hamas started this one by murdering and kidnapping women and children and doing horrendous things. Israel has the right to retaliate. They should do so with the least amount of casualties.
Unfortunately, in the long run, this gets no one closer to nowhere.
Israel doesn’t care about their citizens, they’re carpet bombing Gaza and flooding tunnels they know the hostages are in. They had the option to just do a hostage exchange since day one. This is some mixture of annexation and Netanyahu trying to hold on to power.
In what universe do you live? Hamas pulled out of the continuing the hostage exchange. Israel wanted women returned but Hamas wouldn’t agree…let’s be honest it’s because all the rape and torture would make their propaganda war tricky
Hamas’s cited reason was that Israel was demanding female soldiers, while the terms of the “pause” dictated the exchange of civilians. It seemed like Israel simply wanted an excuse to continue bombing.
Let’s be honest about this having no substantiation at present and being based on Israeli and U.S. State Dept propaganda. Honestly it’s disgusting how quickly people will resort to insinuations like this.
I know! All those raped (verified by Hamas body cam footage) on Oct 7 and people start to think Hamas are going to keep raping the hostages when they get them back to gaza. What a crazy leap right?!
At what point will you rejoin reality bud?
Is it verified by that? Can you provide the footage? Pretty sure this is incorrect.
Hamas cares even less for the lives of Gaza civilians. They cowardly hide in their tunnels, take humanitarian supplies by force from the population and shoot at Gazans when they try to escape from their human shield purpose.
All of these crimes have been documented and you can find them online. Hamas is a dictatorship jihadistic organization who controls the population by fear
What about Gazans? Do you believe they deserve to have 20 Oct 7th done to them every single night?
No, they don’t deserve it. If you were Israel, and 1200 of your people would have been murdered, raped and 400 were taken hostages, what would you do differently?
What would you do “differently” since those Gazans don’t deserve to die in a crowded hospital after a failing amputation attempt because there are no meds and Israel is shelling outside?
Btw I just want to say that 17 thousand of my “people” have already been killed by Israel since I’m Palestinian.
As a Palestinian, you don’t have any criticism of Hamas ? Oct 7th was just an “act of resistance” according to your view?
Do you agree with Hamas ? Why one state solution and not two states?
Hmmm seems like you pull this shit out of your ass, I’m very critical of Hamas.
A one state solution because it was always a single land, where all Palestinans and Jews can be equal. What part of that bothers you?
PS: notice how you just brushed aside the suffering of all Palestinians to come and talk about Hamas. Using Hamas as an excuse for genocide is no better than an excuse for the holocaust or for apartheid. It’s quite disgusting how easily you can just forget the deaths of many innocent people or think that October 7th somehow justifies a second Nakba and a second holocaust.
This seems to be a typical Hasbara account (the Israeli equivalent to Putin trolls).
They keep saying Gaza is not an open air prison. But would they agree to live there for a year like an average civilian?
Would they support the right of Palestine to exist? Would they support the Palestinian right to self determination as people? Do they think Palestinians should have the right to live in their homes?
The answer to all of these questions would be a lot of Blabla leading to an eventual no for an answer. Therefore it makes little sense to interact with these accounts, except for the purpose of calling out their BS
Personally, I definitely support the right of Palestinians to exist. They should have their own state and live peacefully side by side to Israel. Unfortunately both Israelis and Palestinians are plagued by horrible leadership that prevent any of this from happening
How can you live side by side with a state that tortures kids in prison? I mean how do you live peacefully and with dignity in a state that - - through its different leaderships since it’s founding days - - has been detaining people illegally? That doesn’t believe in Palestinians’ right to return or right to a decent life? How do you live side by side your murderers and jailers and torturers when they make no attempt to punish the wrongdoers or the settlers or all those assholes in the IDF who humiliate Palestinians at every chance? I’m seriously asking.
Anyway also please answer my question, what would you have done differently to committing a genocide and ethnic cleansing? 😊😊😊😊
Given the chance, I would immediately start negotiations for two states solution but that will never happen in the current climate.
But you would still continue killing and starving the population?
I do not brush aside the suffering of Palestinians. Both populations are screwed over by bad leadership.
However, Hamas started this one by murdering and kidnapping women and children and doing horrendous things. Israel has the right to retaliate. They should do so with the least amount of casualties.
Unfortunately, in the long run, this gets no one closer to nowhere.
Yeah, they have the right to retaliate… But this isn’t retaliation, and civilians are not respected.