The rise of inexpensive Chinese electric vehicles has upped the pressure on legacy automakers who have turned to suppliers, from battery materials makers to chipmakers, to squeeze out costs and develop affordable EVs quicker than previously planned.
Like sure the Ioniq is a cool car, but it’s fucking $70,000 dollars. I just have a hard time believing they can strap wheels to a battery for less money than that.
Apparently I was mixing up the Ioniq 5 with the Ioniq 5N, which has a starting price in the mid 60s and I think gets into the 70s depending on options.
I am speaking of the regular ioniq 5 here (which is still expensive as fuck), but I also hate how they have to strap every little shitty tech like Tesla just to try to both one-up them in terms of “wow, look how cool this [completely useless garbage] is” and to turn something that already worked (like the mirrors turning into fucking cameras) and was fairly simple into something that is fucking expensive and harder to repair.
No agenda, I’m very pro electric, I just think a lot of the MFGs could stand to make more affordable EV models.
And yeah I think dealerships are not acting in good faith because EVs are way less of a cash cow for their repair departments, among other reasons. I think it’s about time they let consumers buy direct.
A large battery pack replacement is $20k. To make a $20k ev you’d need the whole thing to come in at under $10k manufacturing costs which leaves another 6-8k in R&D, tooling, … per vehicle. Current battery prices are ~$100 per mile of range. Prices need to drop much further for economy EVs to be viable.
Like sure the Ioniq is a cool car, but it’s fucking $70,000 dollars. I just have a hard time believing they can strap wheels to a battery for less money than that.
Yeah they’re putting all their latest tech into these to boost the prices.
Take the most basic car you have and stick a battery in it and it will definitely sell.
So many people want one but aren’t looking for a luxury car.
Exactly. Give me the battery version of a civic or a fit. I don’t want an ultra high tech status symbol. I want a vehicle that refuels while I sleep
That’s the Ioniq 5 N, that’s the 650ish bhp hot hatch, the standard Ioniq 5 starts at $40k. Still not cheap, but not $70k.
Just did a search on inventory for my area, cheapest is $55k
US dealership model is aping prices.
No released Ioniq is 70k.
Apparently I was mixing up the Ioniq 5 with the Ioniq 5N, which has a starting price in the mid 60s and I think gets into the 70s depending on options.
The N is a track focused car, of course it’s expensive.
I am speaking of the regular ioniq 5 here (which is still expensive as fuck), but I also hate how they have to strap every little shitty tech like Tesla just to try to both one-up them in terms of “wow, look how cool this [completely useless garbage] is” and to turn something that already worked (like the mirrors turning into fucking cameras) and was fairly simple into something that is fucking expensive and harder to repair.
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No agenda, I’m very pro electric, I just think a lot of the MFGs could stand to make more affordable EV models.
And yeah I think dealerships are not acting in good faith because EVs are way less of a cash cow for their repair departments, among other reasons. I think it’s about time they let consumers buy direct.
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A large battery pack replacement is $20k. To make a $20k ev you’d need the whole thing to come in at under $10k manufacturing costs which leaves another 6-8k in R&D, tooling, … per vehicle. Current battery prices are ~$100 per mile of range. Prices need to drop much further for economy EVs to be viable.