• Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    “But we can’t pay our content creators! We’re a starving tech company! Niche stuff no one uses or has heard of! We needed to cut the money so they had to push scams!”

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    And since they made so much while people are effectively using adblocker, there’s no need to fight them back, right?

    Right?

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      It’s not about making money, it’s about making all the money. Stock holders will pressure to fire the guy that does that.

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        It’s not about making money, it’s about making all the money.

        It’s probably also about sending a message.

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      I have to see them at school all the time, because our teacher’s teachers don’t bother installing adblockers.

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          Teacher here. My school uses everything Chrome OS and locks the ability to install extensions or other browsers. It’s not always us.

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              At least German is consistent, unlike English where every so-called “rule” nearly has more exceptions than places it applies. As a native speaker I’m always amazed that anyone manages to learn our train wreck of a language.

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                English has its pitfalls, but is in many ways incredibly simple.

                Plus it’s everywhere, and the best way to learn a language is to use it.

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                  English is 3 or 4 languages melded into one.

                  There’s the Germanic old English which gives most of the base language. This is mixed with Norse from the viking invasions. Then aristocratic French came in around 1,000 years ago. Underneath it all, some regions have Celtic influences.

                  Of course there aren’t consistent rules.

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                Dutch is way worse than English regarding inconsistencies it’s not even funny.

                Sadly Dutch is adapting to make some thing “proper” Dutch which where never proper Dutch and sound wrong to every native Dutch speaker. Like “groter als jij” instead of “groter dan jij”.

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                  I’m not sure what you mean here. As far as spelling goes, Dutch is far more consistent than English.

                  You’re mentioning some none-standard Dutch which is often perceived as incorrect (and it is indeed according to the rules of the standard language norm). Yet, if you were correct in your claim that ‘groter als jij’ was ‘never proper Dutch and sound[s] wrong to every native Dutch speaker’, no native Dutch speaker would ever use ‘groter als jij’. Native Dutch speakers do this often, though, and have been doing it at least since the seventeenth century (eg. this quote from 1670: ‘Zy [de vrucht ”Peci”] is niet veel groter als een kastanie …, vol sap en aengenaem van smaek: herder dan een gemeine appel, en een weinig zuurachtig,’ - ‘It [the fruit “Peci”] is not much bigger than a chestnut …, full of juice and pleasantly tasting: harder than a common apple, and a bit sourish,’).

                  Sorry to have gone so off-topic here, though.

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            EDIT: Woops, got confused myself

            The plural -s in Dutch only gets an apostrophe if the stem word ends on an open vowel. So it’s cavia-cavia’s on the one hand, but kikker-kikkers on the other (and la[de]-lades). So even in Dutch this’d be incorrect ;)

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        Use Firefox Mobile and ublock origin it will block ads on mobile

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      When I watch YouTube on the Roku in my bedroom I see ads and it’s terrible. If I see a 30 second ad I go back and hit play again, usually I have to do that two or three times and then I get a 5-second skippable ad. Even then I’m often only two or three minutes into the video before it plays another ad.

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    I say this every time the topic comes up, and I’m always downvoted for it but here goes again:

    YouTube is going to do this suit because YouTube CAN do this shit. It’s their company. They can enshitify it as much as they’d like. And they WILL enshitify it as much as they like as long as people continue to use it.

    How long have they been in existence now? 18-19 years? And with every year they gets worse and worse, while growing bigger and bigger. Why do you think that is?

    Could it be because they know that although everyone will bitch about them, complain about them, and write scathing tech articles about them- people will still gobble their shit up regardless.

    Don’t like what YouTube is doing? Maybe think about not using it. Because as long as you’re participating- either by creating content or viewing it- you are a big part of the reason they’re getting away with doing this shit.

    Downvote away.

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      Let’s just say, unless YouTube crosses people’s bottom lines and there’s an alternative being actively advertised, people won’t move.

      Otherwise, they push that bottom line further.

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        The lack of alternatives where creators actually get paid for people watching their videos is the biggest problem.

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          Even youtube doesn’t pay the creators that much. Lois Rossman in a recent video showed some of his video in YT that had over 200k views and generated ~100 USD of income.

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            On a related note. Why would creators add sponsored segments/other sponsoring/patreon etc if YT pays them enough?

            spoiler

            YT doesn’t pay them enough. Unless your some kind of super star.

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            And that’s probably what will kill them as payouts get worse and worse making other platforms more attractive as you’re not losing as much. A lot of YouTubers I follow seem to becoming more and more reliant on Patreon as ad revenue goes down.

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        Agreed. Seems there no floor to what people will put up with from them. I can’t understand it. I’ve tried products and services I found that I absolutely hated. I don’t have those products or services anymore.

        It’s pretty easy to not do something.

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      People well not pay for anything. I mean you can get YouTube premium without ads. But the vast majority don’t want it. And since no one well pay for anything how does a computer to YouTube make money?

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        Shit tons of people are paying for it. And the ones that aren’t, are viewing ads- both of these things are a profit for YouTube.

        The only option you have is to not use the services at all. This is how you hurt them.

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                At the end of the day, we’d all be better off if everyone just never used it again, because as long as people put up with what they do- the more they’ll do it.

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                @aeternum @technology Adguard blocks all advertisements on there. I’ve installed that, and I’ve never received a single one. As much as I wish I could simply mix YouTube for my life, I can’t, because too many of the folks who produce content up there use it as their only means of sharing that content with the world, so I’ve sort of struck a balancing act between watching the things I want to watch, Will still remaining conscientious of what the companies behind it are doing.

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      Youtube started when hosting video’s was way easier. The files where smaller, the bandwidth of most people wasn’t that great either. Storage was more expensive though.

      These days everybody wants 4K footage and everybody was 100-1000+ mbps internet and we have 4K screens so we can also watch it.

      The competitors who host it are either paid up front or porn sites. Because there is no real way to start up a competitor to YouTube. I decided to accept that and I have RSSfeeds of all the creators I like to watch so I bypass the algorithm

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      They get away with it because they don’t have serious competition and the reason for that is that allowing anyone to upload videos for free, to be viewed by anyone else for free, is by itself not a viable business model.

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        It’s the size really. As with most social media platforms, often they are fairly easy to create (YouTube definitely isn’t, but many could). Problem is that it’s impossible to compete with, because people expect the activity you get from hundreds of millions of users.

        Same goes for Twitter, Reddit and whatnot. Since capitalism took over the internet completely, basically none of the large plattforms have been outcompeted really.

        To big to fail isn’t the banks nowadays, well then to, but it’s IT as well.

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        Me too. I never try to come off as pushy on the topic. Just suggesting an option, but man… people haven’t responded well to it in the past.

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      does it count as viewing if every time I just download the videos with yt-dlp, and watch in a good media player?

  • ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ@lemm.ee
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    havent seen them. are they any different? i am sure it is the same scam google does with Ads. only boomers see it, but are not the target group and the advertisers are just wasting money.

    instead of using piped/smarttube i advise to not use US based services at all.I mean fuck you for supporting the ultragreedy.

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    Tbh YT premium is well worth the asking price though I wish it subsidized the free experience as that’s much more important for the platform.

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        The problem is yt premium is not able to sustain google’s platform. Only google’s synergic monopolies make youtube possible and alternative financially unviable. Youtube, very literally, must die. As long as youtube exists it will maintain critical mass and kill everything else judt by existing. To fund youtube is to reinfotce this entrenchment. Both paying or watching ads and arguably just watching it, empowers google momooly position and its capture of the zeitgeist.

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      There are tools that let you do what YT Premium provides for free unless you’re hooked on the music.

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        I know all the tools but I’d rather support Youtube which has ben an incredible service for me and I think it’s a net good for the society so it should remain sustainable.

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            Let me explain my point of view - it’s not about giving money to Google but showing the business that there’s a viable monetization strategy that isn’t locking down content or fighting ad blockers.

            Let’s say there is no Youtube premium and everyone has an adblocker then google has no choice but to fight ad blocking harder or lock down the content because Youtube starts to bleed money. Now some lazy people pay for Premium and we have this little golden mean where everyone can kinda use the platform kinda freely which is a pretty good compromise if you ask me.

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          There are tools for the music side as well

          RVX Music works quite well for me on Android

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            RVX Music requires manual compilation, right? Also, does it properly play album version of songs? (YT Music ReVanced plays the video version of songs instead).

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              I don’t remember having to compile it and there’s a setting to prefer the album version of songs

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            Honestly, the service is worth it for me. I need the easiest process possible for my luddite wife and kindergartener’s Amazon fire tablet. I put my mom on the account too.

            But for everything else, yarrrrr.