We have blocked Kiwifarms. Visitors to any of the Kiwifarms sites that use any of Cloudflare's services will see a Cloudflare block page and a link to this post.

CloudFlare is dropping KiwiFarms

  • AgreeableLandscape@lemmy.ml
    131·
    2 years ago

    Only because people raised such a stink and actually threatened their bottom line with people boycotting them. That’s literally the only fucking reason. Anyone who thinks it’s actually because of silly things like “not wanting to be associated with such a disgusting, festering cesspool of a site” is naïve. It’s the exact same situation as they had with 8chan.

    • jokeyrhyme@lemmy.ml
      51·
      2 years ago

      Anyone who thinks it’s actually because of silly things like “not wanting to be associated with such a disgusting, festering cesspool of a site” is naïve.

      Not sure where you got this from, this didn’t seem to be in the CloudFlare blog post anywhere

  • loathesome dongeater@lemmygrad.ml
    112·
    2 years ago

    What sucks is that they are still sort of protecting them. You can’t DDOS them because you’ll be redirected to the cloudflare page instead of to the website.

    They have alternative domains. One of them is serviced by ddos-guard. I think there is one onion domain too but I’ve not seen it.

  • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.mlM
    113·
    2 years ago

    Sounds good. KF is a shit stain on the entire internet, that pushes LGBT+ teens, among others, to commit suicide by cyberbullying and doxxing.

    • rysiek@szmer.infoOP
      10·
      2 years ago

      Totally. Good riddance.

      That said, it does raise questions about who gets to decide (and on what grounds) who stays online. However, the actual problem with this is best exemplified by this little sentence from their previous blogpost (on how they are not going to block KW):

      Today, more than 20 percent of the web relies directly on Cloudflare’s services.

      That’s the underlying problem. If a website gets dropped by a provider that serves, say ~2% of the Internet, no biggie. If it gets dropped by 50 similar providers, well, clearly nobody wants to do business with you.

      But if such decisions are made between a few huge providers, each handling a good 1/5th of global web traffic? Then yes, there is a bit of bad aftertaste. Which only allows the dweebs from KiwiFarms and such of this world to cry “censorship”.

      • TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.mlM
        63·
        2 years ago

        it does raise questions about who gets to decide (and on what grounds) who stays online

        There will always be some kind of authority. Even a human-less robot governed world will have robots. There is a reason why anarchism has never brought a successful revolution. There will be some basis of judgement probably forever.

        • rysiek@szmer.infoOP
          6·
          2 years ago

          There will always be some kind of authority.

          Sure, I never said there isn’t, or that there should not be. I only said that this question is raised.

          In an anarchist context this can be community consensus, I guess. In nation state context, this can be a government decision or a court order. And so on.

          What I am trying to underscore here is that the fact that a company’s decision to not do business with a particularly toxic customer should not be of such immense consequence. And the only reason it is is because of CloudFlare’s position.

          CloudFlare’s position is a bigger problem than CloudFlare’s policies.

  • onlooker@lemmy.ml
    4·
    2 years ago

    However, the rhetoric on the Kiwifarms site and specific, targeted threats have escalated over the last 48 hours to the point that we believe there is an unprecedented emergency and immediate threat to human life unlike we have previously seen from Kiwifarms or any other customer before.

    Unprecedented?!