Fixed

Weird al explained it well

Where?

Why not codeberg?

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I’d love to see some screenshots

On a sidenote: I fucking LOVE !degenerate@lemmynsfw.com 🤩

Asking for a friend?

Well, this is why I suggested we’d start to eat the rich™ globally.

brb, editing our politician’s photos

Yeah, I think that’s mostly it, isn’t it?

Yeah, I mostly agree with that. What about friendjank?

Any time I see someone say this, they always fail to actually provide any examples of games that fit this description

Lethal Company is actually pretty fun if you’re playing it alone. That’s a positive example.

Another one is Don’t Starve Together. Great together, but Don’t Starve itself is also fun.

Among us on the other hand has no bots and you won’t have any fun without other players. However, you’d also not have fun without other players in Uno, Chess or Checkers.

Were these enough examples or did I misunderstand your point?

I don’t agree that you have to make games be good beyond the multiplayer experience. I’d love it to get my money’s worth, if I can play the game alone AND share the fun with friends I’ll gladly pay extra.

As it stands, many friendjank games only cost a few euros so I can live with them not being fun after a while or without friends. After all I used to buy cinema cards for my friends and I and didn’t have more than a few hours of fun, and cinema cards are often way more expensive than friendslop.

Yeah, elsewhere I suggested we could call it friendjank. I love janky games.

Quite on point. I’d add that it’s not only games but also other media like movies you can enjoy better with friends, even if they’re not particularly cinematographic masterpieces.

Hell, it technically started even earlier than that, with physical card games and board games and such. Just play them with friends and it’s fun.

Here I was, thinking people liked Uno for the deep game mechanics and story 🙃

People in this thread try to pull compliments for friendslop out of thin air because they can’t admit they like simple or bad games. If it’s fun, it must be genius, because obviously I won’t ever play a game which is bad, would I now? 🙃😅

I’d say people should enjoy what they enjoy. We should stop judging other people’s fun. And I think this is kind of also the point of the article: if people have fun in AAA games with micro transactions and battle passes, I let them and I’m happy they can have fun. I won’t touch that shit myself though, rather play a “friendslop” title 😅

I very much disagree, it’s like judging that samba is not good cos it’s not blues. They’re two different genres with different goals.

Funny, that was actually my point I tried to make. I repeat myself:

That’s not to say friendslop don’t have a right to exist. There’s a time and a place for friendslop, it’s not when you want to play a good game.

I often compare it to mediocre or bad movies which only work on cinema screens or home theater. If you watch “popcorn movies” without popcorn, you won’t enjoy the movie.

But that’s where I’d disagree:

If it’s fun then it is well designed.

You can have fun with badly designed or badly polished games. It needs an engaging game loop, sure, it can’t be complete crap. But I’d argue that you don’t need to create a good game to create a fun(ny) game.

Example: EYE Divine Cybermancy. One of my favourite games but I often laugh at the jank and incoherent story, and the bugs, and I’m still having fun.

Maybe we shouldn’t call it friendslop, but friendjank?

I didn’t compare CS2 to Peak specifically. I compared good games to friendslop.

Can you tell me why you’re upset that I call “friendslop” bad games? I didn’t say you can’t enjoy bad games, I’d say in many instances I had more fun in objectively bad games and movies with friends than I had in good games. Sometimes the good games are boring and the jank makes “bad” games great or funny.

I also didn’t say I dislike friendslop. I enjoyed Lethal Company and Among Us with friends, for example. I also really like watching “bad” movies with friends, we even watched The Room once 😅

I even watch objectively bad films by myself. One of my favourites is Fortress (1992). This has an 38% rotten and a 40% popcorn meter rating on Rottentomatoes. Which is basically my point – media doesn’t have to be good to be enjoyable or funny.

I’m not always after a laugh though. There’s a place and a time for friendslop, and it’s specifically called friendslop because of that. Don’t see it as an insult.

Why would it be not the year of the Linux desktop?

For me the year of the Linux desktop has been every year since 2007.

There probably would to be a kernel API to check for anticheat measures. Even then, the OS being FOSS means that you can easily create rootkits, obviously. So secure boot etc will also be a requirement for Linux anticheat.

The real issue is devs not wanting to pay for hosting server side anticheat. I’d much rather have Valve convince them VAC is a good idea than to have them use intrusive anticheat measures or make Linux worse.

Well it’s basically gaming fastfood: they’re bad games in themselves, and you can only enjoy them with friends. You wouldn’t enjoy them with people you don’t have chemistry with. Whereas there’s some competitive games like CS2 you can enjoy with random strangers because it’s a mechanically well made game.

That’s not to say friendslop don’t have a right to exist. There’s a time and a place for friendslop, it’s not when you want to play a good game.

I often compare it to mediocre or bad movies which only work on cinema screens or home theater. If you watch “popcorn movies” without popcorn, you won’t enjoy the movie.

Ah, got it. That’s oversimplified. Obviously the money needs to go to education etc, and money isn’t the only instrument of class warfare.

Socialism isn’t taxation under capitalism like you seem to think it is

I never said that.