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  • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techtoComic Strips@lemmy.worldMovie Review
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    2 days ago

    Just to redirect, you mention Luke, who had no backstory before Episode 4 (and really none anyway).

    If R1 is a trope at all it’s a heist movie. So let’s compare it to something similar, like Ocean’s 11. Of the 11, we know the backstory of 1-2 of the members there. Everyone else makes the ensemble who then build together a heist, them working together with their skills ultimately make the movie amazing. I don’t know each of their backstory, but it’s regarded as the quintessential heist movie. So I stand by my argument, you don’t need everyone to have a fully fleshed out character arc just to have a good movie.

    Even then many of the characters do show up in prequels and other series. Andor got his own series because people wanted to know more. So, I don’t think that’s the argument you think it is.

    Then finally,

    The movie is pretty transparently just Disney pandering to the adults that grew up with Star Wars and wanted to feel like they could still enjoy it through more adult media.

    I was born after the originally trilogy. So, swing and a miss there.

    And also

    Andor does what Rogue One was trying to do much better, and it’s telling that by doing so it barely feels like Star Wars any more.

    • Andor was 20 hours long compared to 2.5 hours, not exactly comparable if your main metric is “how fleshed out are backstories”
    • I go back to what I said in my first reply to you: " I just wonder if you don’t like Star wars". Which honestly do you? It’s okay if you don’t but if your number one thing about Andor was literally “it barely feels like Star Wars any more” then maybe it’s time to admit you just don’t like Star Wars, and let us who do just enjoy it over here.


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    4 days ago

    I disagree, these aren’t supposed to be major characters that have big backstories, these are just people in the universe. Fleeting characters who for a brief moment had massive impacts on the galaxy. That’s the point, that these people who are seemingly unimportant have one big impact by coming together for this one moment. Again these aren’t superheroes, they aren’t big characters that have big names like Skywalker or Palpatine, these are just people in the galaxy.

    I think that’s a question for you. Why do they need a backstory in your mind to make them “interesting”? I see people with this decision thrust on them, and the very fact that we don’t know them but they have such a pivotal effect on the galaxy is why it stands out to me.


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    Episode 4 was also quite literally a hero movie though, R1 was about the actual soldiers in the trenches. While I love the original, it’s not comparable. You’re dealing with Jedi who have powers and the heads of the rebellion. R1, and Andor while touching on that are much more in the trenches, getting to know the every man/woman. Maybe that’s what is missing from your critique, that these aren’t meant to be power-weilding characters, not everyone needs to save the day.

    While I love the original - it’s an action movie. The heroes are large, there are above-human powers, it’s larger than life. R1 is a more realistic movie about the actual people fighting in the trenches. You catch glimpses of the decision makers, but the movie follows some pretty standard soldiers who are pulled into a decision they have to make, and rise to become realistic heroes.

    If you find that boring then, well I honestly feel sorry because I found it amazing. Not every story needs to have superheroes and overly charismatic guys and princesses. Sometimes even the “boring” soldiers trying to survive and do their job have a story to tell.


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    It takes place over 4 days what character development are you hoping for? It’s a setup for Episode 4, it’s about the sacrifice they make. To me it’s the connection they make over such a short amount of time barely getting to know each other, and then sacrificing themselves for almost total strangers for a better cause. (It’s also why I strongly disagree with the Andor/Jyn romance. It wasn’t a romance, they didn’t need to shoehorn in a romance story. They were simply connecting as two humans in their last moments) If you only saw “dark” in that then I think you missed the emotional hits.

    Also insulting people who do like it while assuming their taste in film says that we should mostly disregard your opinion anyway.





  • I’ve lived long enough where I definitely see this as the reason.

    It starts with one person saying “hey wait, if we do this thing we waste a little less!”. Good intentions and idea. It grows and catches on. Companies see that and see the triple hitter: they can

    • reduce overhead costs by not doing the wasteful thing
    • go on a PR blitz making it look like they’re doing amazing things, people clapping all the way
    • continue charging the same amount.

    Happens all the time. Tipping is the best example. You feel bad for the driver or server so you tip a little more. Companies see this and make it easier for you to tip, saying they really value their workers and want to let you tell them. Meanwhile they do nothing for actual pay, screwing you and the employees at the same time.