• TootSweet@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    22 days ago

    They’re openly disdainful of all things Open Source and OSI, and their software is not Open Source.

    They’re a fully for-profit company using consumer rights kind of rhetoric to manipulate people in service to FUTO’s own pocketbook. Don’t fall for their use of the .org tld or promises to “never abuse customers”.

    I’ve written many times about what assholes FUTO is. I’m fully convinced they’re way more part of the problem than part of the solution and they’re not to be trusted.

    They’ve soured me on Rossman. Back when he was doing coverage of things like the court cases around right to repair and tractors and stuff, I watched a few videos of his and thought he was awesome. And then he got involved with FUTO and started billing Grayjay as “Open Source” and I’ve gotten sufficiently disillusioned with FUTO that I haven’t followed Rossman at all. I’ve got coworkers changing their avatars to Clippy and shit, and I believe their hearts are in the right place, but I can’t in good conscience really get behind anything or anyone associated with FUTO.

    Edit: Oh. I honesty didn’t even see this OP was a link to an article. Lol. Now I’m very interested to go read that article.

    Edit 2: Shite. I’ve now read the article. I knew FUTO was assholes in a lot of different ways, but now I know how deeply, completely irredeemable they really are.

    • ShortN0te@lemmy.ml
      0·
      22 days ago

      Luckily thanks to their licensing model they basically cannot. Immich has according to github as of now 1606 contributors. Changing the license so that there could even be a proprietary fork would require basically the ok by every contributor (that made a relevant code contribution)

      • Ferk@lemmy.ml
        1·
        21 days ago

        And even if they did somehow manage to get permission to switch the license, all previous versions would still be open in perpetuity so a fork would come easily. Immich source isn’t only open, and not only GPL… but AGPL-3.0 which is as copyleft as you can get.

        • kureta@lemmy.ml
          1·
          21 days ago

          Thank God! That’s a relief. I thought I was going to have to redo my entire photo library hosting stuff.

  • arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    2·
    22 days ago

    Wolf also was spouting about how great Trump is and how “woke” shit is ruining society or whatever in January IIRC. I briefly trawled through their social media when I was investigating their keyboard, Grayjay, and Immich and promptly decided to never, ever give them money.

    Note that their keyboard doesn’t require network (at least as of now), so if you don’t give them money or promote it to other people, they don’t really benefit.

    EDIT: Also, there are claims Rossman has a Kiwi Farms account and is at least somewhat active there. I haven’t investigated those very thoroughly though.

  • ChocolateFrostedSugarBombs@lemmy.world
    2·
    21 days ago

    Son of a BITCH! I’m so fucking tired of this… Everywhere you look you gotta examine EVERYTHING about a company/group because they might be fascists now…I love Grayjay, it was working so great and I loved the proclaimed mission…I was even trying to get FCast to work since I lost casting ability when I moved to Linux…

    I’m just gonna take a break over here for a bit.

  • demizerone@lemmy.world
    1·
    21 days ago

    Aw man I knew there was something wrong here. I gave them money for the keyboard and the voice talk and immich bcz I was a Rossman fan. They played him and me. Fuck these fascists.

  • seraphine@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    1·
    21 days ago

    WHY. GODDAMN WHY is it lately that any organization behind products i like turn out to be extreme assholes? we’re on a streak atm i feel like

  • dustyData@lemmy.world
    1·
    22 days ago

    Why does every mobile keyboard developer have some controversial shit? I just want to text in peace.

  • Catalyst@lemmy.ml
    1·
    20 days ago

    Shit I really liked them. Their keyboard is incredible and Grayjay is hard to replace on desktop. But I’ll get started on replacing them. Any ideas on a good keyboard that’s open-source? Not anysoftkeyboard or mantis. Tried them.

    • Catalyst@lemmy.ml
      2·
      20 days ago

      Replaced their keyboard with heliboard and went back to newpipe. Sucks. Fucking fascist.

      • Ephera@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
        1·
        20 days ago

        Yeah, HeliBoard or FlorisBoard would’ve been my recommendation. They’re very similar, though (and presumably share most code between themselves).

  • deathbird@mander.xyz
    1·
    20 days ago

    I’m going to stop using good free software because I read a blog post by a sketchy guy saying the guys that wrote the software are sketchy. 🙄

    No material harm is described in the post. This is a drama blog.

    • Ephera@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      2·
      20 days ago

      Believe what you want, but Drew DeVault has more of a reputation than FUTO.

    • Captain Beyond@linkage.ds8.zone
      0·
      20 days ago

      “good” is subjective but FUTO’s software is non-free. Their attempts to openwash their proprietary license is enough of a red flag.

      • Blisterexe@lemmy.zip
        01·
        20 days ago

        It’s not a FOSS liscence, but saying it’s proprietary is also disingenuous, it’s source available.

        • Ephera@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
          0·
          20 days ago

          From a communication viewpoint, that is fair, but to my knowledge (from being a professional software developer), effectively any license that is not ‘open-source’ or ‘free’ is by definition proprietary.

          Because those two terms describe licensing standards (the only established ones that I know of). Whereas I believe, “proprietary license” uses this meaning of proprietary:

          Nonstandard and controlled by one particular organization.

          So, they wrote that license themselves is the point. What it says in there is secondary in meaning.

          This is so highly relevant because in legal disputes, there is certain license compatibilities which are known to be possible.
          You can take a library licensed under the MIT license and use it in a project that uses the Apache-2.0 license and you’re perfectly fine. This is the foundation of why the open-source ecosystem exists at all.

          But you cannot take the source code from FUTO and use it in a differently licensed project, because no legal precedents exist to support this. (I believe, the FUTO license also actively prohibits this in some way, but that’s beside the point.)
          This has massive implications. Like, yeah, you can look at the code, but it is useless. If FUTO closes shop or enshittifies, you cannot fork their projects.
          And because you cannot legally re-use their source code in other projects, likely no one looks at it in depth either.

  • Captain Beyond@linkage.ds8.zone
    1·
    21 days ago

    I’ve always been an outspoken skeptic of FUTO (check post history) and their bizarre campaign against free software, but I didn’t know they were this bad. Yikes