The most virtuous profession to be, in libertarian logic, is scammer. Big money gain for little effort, therefore good.
Working together is not allowed in individualism. Everyone must be a untrustworthy scammer out for the other’s money, as that’s what libertarians think everyone aspires to be.
Naive idiots at best genocidal Maniacs at worst.
I’ve known a bunch of them and I think their ideology is fine on the surface, but full of small contraddictions, for example:
- they believe freedom is the utmost important thing, but their freedom is always threatened so they always should do what they do want, even if that limits other people freedom. For example: I should not be forced to pay taxes if I don’t want because noone should be forced to pay for a “service”, it should always be a choice (but if my country gives me healthcare without paying taxes, I should also use the service). However, things like paying tolls for private highway is also bad, because one should be able to go wherever they want withou paying. See the problem in this?
- they don’t believe in “rights” as anything imposed from the top is bad. If a category is persecuted (black people, gays, whatever) they should not be protected, but fight on their own
- according to them, in true capitalism, free market is perfect and the most just, and monopolies will not happen on free market. Now they happen only because laws allow them to “manipulate” the narket.
- they often spiral down alt-right conspiracies theory with a libertarian flavour, like a deep-state working hard to limit even more your freedom, or everything even remotely “politically correct” (even things like protection against protection against being fired because you are homosexual) is woke propaganda and also aimed to limit your freedom.
That’s my experience with a few tens of people, so I don’t know if that’s representative of the whole community, bu my own little consipracy theory is that libertarianism as I know it was crafted by the US alt-right to subtly manipulate people into fascism, the premises are all there: hatred for the current state, bigotry, extreme victimism, a willingness to strip down thenselves of hard-fought rights and a hustle/grinding mentality to slave yourself down to work and enrich other people
Libertarians are grumpy indoor cats. They’re violently independent and want to be left alone, but their survival is also entirely dependent on the systems surrounding them, which they completely take for granted.
The grumpy indoor cat doesn’t want your attention, they just want their auto-feeder to activate like it always does. Never mind the fact that you’re the one who keeps the auto-feeder filled. They don’t care about that, they just care that the auto-feeder dispenses food.
On a TV series, a cowboy libertarian explains his being libertarian to a rich evil lady. She smiles and exclaims “you are all a bunch of toddlers! Wanting to suckle on other peoples tits and being treated as adults, while having none of the responsibility of being one”.
Left wing (actual OG) Libertarianism is great. Right wing Libertarianism is basically a bunch of antisocial/intellectually lazy people who think the ideal society is one where everybody has a few acres of land with a little shack that they built themselves where they subsist on potatoes, carrots, and chicken eggs and stockpile gold and silver to trade with another libertarian twice a year.
I consider myself pretty left (at least in comparison to the average German), but that lifestyle sounds quite tempting to me. I’d skip chicken though.
“libertarians generally advocate for minimal government regulation, believing that businesses should operate freely and regulate themselves through voluntary exchange and competition. They argue that over-regulation can stifle innovation and economic growth.”
So in my opinion, they are dumbasses. Yeah let’s get the Nestles and Monsanto’s of the world to regulate themselves. Honestly just unserious people with no critical thinking skills in my opinion.
Either incredibly selfish /self centered people, incredibly uninformed on the real world, or a combination of both.
The “I can’t bring myself low enough to identify as republican anymore”. Still a conservative if not even now leaning harder to the right. They are house cats. Utterly and totally dependent upon a system that they have absolutely no appreciation or respect for.
Left libertarianism is great and serves as an effective counterbalance to many issues. Right libertarianism is often foolish at best and rarely includes the freedom to do things like live your life as you please
I think it’s nonsense.
The “free market” is never truly free, and if there isn’t something holding the capitalist class back, they will always dominate the working class until the system just breaks. The only way for a stable society to exist is for checks and balances.
The best right wing libertarians end up being left wing libertarians.
if you know someone who calls themself a libertarian, ask them how they feel about the age of consent then immediately seize their hard drive
Anyone I’ve ever heard talking about the non-aggression principle spat red flags faster than a machine gun.
At best, they’re truly so dense and unsympathetic they don’t recognize actions that aren’t directly or intentionally causing harm do still cause harm (example, the free state project people leaving food out for black bears “because they can” without thought for their neighbors who then have to deal with more bears). At worst, it’s rape apologia (crap like statutory rape doesn’t exist because that minor “totally asked for it” and the rape didn’t cause physical damage).
Pedophiles trick children into thinking they’re libertarians because cops are bad and weed is good
Cops are badly out of control and weed should be allowed if someone chooses to do it but yes I agree that libertarianism is stupid.
Hooray for me, and fuck you!
