Its looking like Microsoft is gonna buy Discord. Preferably open source, and has a big userbase, and has Windows and Linux option. (but mainly windows because i only game on windows now.)

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      If it does not have communities with shared text and voice channels, then it’s not a Discord replacement.

      It does not matter if you think Discord’s features aren’t important. They matter to OP and they’re not here for Element because it does not have what Discord does.

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        You can absolutely do that with Matrix. At least in Element you can. You can make communities, which are functionally very similar to Discord “servers.” Groups of rooms with text and voice/video channels. You can absolutely do it.

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          No, you can’t. There’s no such features in Element and advertising it does is only going to lead to disappointed new users.

          Again, when Spaces land, then we can re-evaluate the situation.

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              Do you remember Mumble voice channel hierarchy in a server? With fast exchange and without having to start a call per room. They want that with video too (this is why Mumble is not a replacement for them too).

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              To emulate Element within Discord, all you need to do is make a new Discord “server” with one single text channel and just leave it at that.

              Obviously it’s no longer Discord with such limitations, but that’s Element in a nutshell.

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                You do realize communities exist on Matrix with multiple channels and voice/video correct? I don’t understand what all you people are missing.

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                    And communities are simply glorified collections of channels without any of Discord’s features like access control with flairs and invites and such. The whole structure of a Discord “server” is wholly incompatible with the current community support.

                    Element devs themselves have stated they’re gonna burn community support with fire and replace it with Spaces.

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          There is no such thing as a voice or video channel in Matrix. Not yet at least. Communities are going to be replaced by Spaces soon btw.

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              There isn’t voice chats/channels in Matrix afaik, only calls. One time calls are not what people look for in Discord alternatives. The appeal of voice channels is that they’re always there and show who’s online with other people already or looking for a chat, with no one specific mind. It’s just like Mumble channels.

              I’m kinda confused why you keep saying Matrix/Element has features it clearly doesn’t.

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                …there are no limits on how many times you can call… if you’re looking for calls that are always open, using tons of bandwidth, yeah, that’s not as doable on non-corporate platforms… you’re not going to get the exact same experience. Element doesn’t have a purple logo either :(((

                EDIT: actually, you can just keep a call open indefinitely. I’m in a room that does this regularly. People hop in and out all the time.

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                  A voice channel (or “call” if you wanna equate them) with no people won’t use any “tons of bandwidth” though. There’s literally no data being transferred. A voice stream doesn’t even have to be allocated (or whatever the right terminology is for that).

                  EDIT: actually, you can just keep a call open indefinitely. I’m in a room that does this regularly. People hop in and out all the time.

                  That’s interesting, I’ve never experimented with that. Still, people want an obvious equivalent to Discord voice channels. Calls aren’t voice channels, no matter how much you want them to be the same. At a technical level they’re the same yes, but the UX is completely different.

                  Hell you could even say all they need to do to implement voice channels is at the client level because the server already kind of supports it through the Jitsi calls.