I am using Standard Notes currently but I don’t want to pay 10$/month anymore.
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I use the Vivaldi Browser, which includes a note editor (Markdown) as one of it’s multiple functions. The browser is very privacy oriented and with a own Sync encrypted end2end for all data, also the notes.
Vivaldi is not a private browser.
No browser is 100% private, nor is TOR without VPN. Vivaldi is at the same height as Firefox (the current Google-funded mascot) and far more than any other Chromium, except perhaps Brave or UR. User privacy is at the center of the Vivaldi cooperative and the one that takes into account the user’s needs the most. Take a look.
Vivaldi is proprietary and assigns a unique user ID to each installation which pings their servers every 24 hours.
Proprieatry software should not be recommended in this community because we can’t verify what’s running beneath it.
Yes, but read how and the reason, it isn’t really a privacy problem, it’s like a municipal employee who counts the number of cars that pass on a street, to determine the traffic density. This in no way compromises the privacy of the drivers. Regarding Vivaldi being defined as proprietary*, it is due to 5% of its scripts referring to the UI that are restricted for commercial use, to protect itself, but open for auditing, the rest is OpenSource and available here.
https://vivaldi.com/source/ *https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-browser-open-source/
Vivaldi is very different of any other Browser, just as it was with the first Opera, before being sold to the Chinese. Vivaldi is from the same CEO of the old Opera, Jon von Tetzchner No, I am not concerned about Vivaldi’s privacy, not with this philosophy that the Team has, they even did not include the name Vivaldi in the UA, against their own interests, because users experienced problems accessing certain Google services (abusive browser sniffings ). What other company does this? Mozilla?
Welp. No thank you. I won’t use proprietary software.
Enough OT, Note app, what you think of this one
https://editor.ssuiteoffice.com
With the shortest TOS and Privacy Policy I know
https://www.ssuitesoft.com/privacypolicy.htm Full website https://www.ssuiteoffice.com/categories/webapps.htm (SaaS) About https://www.ssuiteoffice.com/resources/windowswithnojava.htm
Do you use GitHub? You know, it’s proprietario (Microsoft) FOSS isn’t necesary sinonym of privacy. The reason is a community and collaborative work, apart to avoid Big Tech. Important that the site, app or service has a good Privacy Policy and TOS, this what nobody reads.
I use QOwnNotes on my desktop that syncs to my NextCloud for keeping text based notes. For more feature full notes with reminders, checklists, etc I use Google Keep. Tried Apple Notes but it lacks some features on the web browser access and is only fully functional on iPhone, iPad and a Mac.
There’s a whole subculture of people obsessed with Emacs’ org-mode for notekeeping, todos, agendas, etc. I don’t really know the half of it, but what I appreciate is the outline view, inline LaTeX and code snippets, nice tables, and export to HTML. Then I use Syncthing.
Syncthing + whatever apps you like. I like vim or typora on desktop, and Markor on android.
I’m using notion.so for advanced content like tables, pictures and so on…
Notes for handwritten notes, I sometimes password protect sensitive notes, plus it’s synced with all my devices
Have you ever read Notion’s ToS and privacy policy? This sub is dedicated to privacy and there is nothing private about Notion.
if you don’t mind using an electron app, and don’t want to pay for the service, and want some privacy with an all-in-one notes tool, then https://www.getoutline.com/ is probably your best pick. it is essentially a self-hosted open source version of https://notion.so - personally i use notion as i can’t host my own server reliably (they have a paid option, but the free works perfectly fine if you aren’t intent on organizing wikis with large teams).
but as much as it pains me to say for my personal use, i am in the process of switching back to evernote (using the nixnote2 client), as the growing numbers of electron apps on my system are essentially making my computer move at snail speeds (they are massive resource hogs). nixnote2/evernote is definitely not good enough for me and i do prefer my privacy and FOSS, but there just aren’t any non-electron live sync note apps available that will work with all mine and team’s devices (linux, windows, ios, android). as i share my notes with a small team and there just aren’t any options out there for my needs bare nixnote2/evernote (which is not good enough by a long shot, as i actually need faster sync and live collaboration (and preferably encrypted), but for now, it’s the ONLY option i can use, and i hope some day there will be a fast non-electron all-in-one notes app with live collaboration outside of the apple ecosystem).
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Online: turtl Offline with syn : Joplin
Check out Logseq, or Obsidian, or Zettlr. They all use markdown as their base meaning you can transfer your notes anywhere if you don’t like the development of the app in the future. They all can be hosted on a Seafile instance which is a really good Delta-sync app that has encryption. I use Luckycloud.de (seafile), which costs me 1 euro a month.
Thank you. Do you know other Seafile instances?
I only know of the ones on the seafile partner site. Luckycloud is the least expensive. https://www.seafile.com/en/partner/
I like Joplin
Joplin looks unpolished and Nextcloud sync option is often clumsy.
Does it? I mean sure, it’s not the gold standard of UI design, but that’s fairly par for the course in the open source world.
Which ones are we comparing?
I use Joplin too. You can use it on multiple devices and store your notebook on Nextcloud or Dropbox as excepted files that are decrypted on your device.
My requirement was to be able to write notes and also make checklists that can be checked and unchecked for use with grocery lists, and Joplin is awesome for that.
I am testing out Obsidian at the moment and I am liking it. I am still trying to figure out what the best way to sync between devices. At the moment I have found this script and Syncthing, but I am still only using it locally. Their phone app is still in closed beta, so probably not the best choice if you want to access notes from your phone.
I use Seafile for syncing Obsidian notes. It works pretty well. Syncthing is probably a better option but Seafile is pretty easy.
Check out stick - shareable git notebooks. There is a web UI and you can edit the files via standard git commands locally or via SSH when you’re at a PC. This is a project I created.
https://code.rocketnine.space/tslocum/stick
you can host your own standard notes, can’t you?
I’m gonna be that guy:
Org-mode with emacs. Sync with syncthing.
There are mobile client too.
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