I just want to express my feelings about the internet here. I don’t know why I want this that much. maybe convenience and not logging into youtube, twitter, instagram etc. but just mastodon. yes, just mastodon. there’s no particular motive I want to do things as I can to make this happen. I don’t know if something as simple as telling them to just come here will work. It’s good that wordpress now has AP support. that means I could just ask them to turn on a feature at the platform they already have. I don’t actually know someone interesting to follow though, but It’s a start. When will this happen, when I discovered the fediverse I had an excitement of the future of the internet will be amazing. with AP platforms being the dominant and most diverse ones; Peertube, Plume, Wordpress, Writefreely, and even Funkwhale. I was sure now that if I was on fediverse, I won’t be using corporate stuff and is a million times more better and ever more expanding. I realized no one I knew from the normal social media was here. So when will they come? When will Youtubers go to peertube? when will Twitter users use mastodon? when will bloggers use AP? When?
I’m just so excited. and so uncertain and I can’t wait for much.
Corporate platforms earn money through ads, and this money trickle down to the creators. Creators bring viewers to the platform. It’s full circle.
The internet culture has shifted quite a lot in recent years together with its growing population. Nowadays, creators only create if there is a monetary incentives.
For the fediverse to bring creators over, there needs to be a monetary incentive for them. The fediverse being in opposition of both ads and profits, means there has to be a different model in place (just like how most GNU based software have an alternative model to keep their office doors open).
There are other problems of adaption to deal with as well, such as in many countries, facebook is available even without a paid internet subscription, which is why they entirely dominate the market and is for all intents and purposes ‘the internet’ in these places.
But yeah, like everyone here, I would love for there to be a huge shift back to a federated internet. But for the moment, these same individuals who were surfing the old web, are those who utilize the fediverse, while the vast majority of the worlds population, those who never experienced the free internet, are locked to corporate platforms and what incentives they have to offer.
Want to bring people over to the fediverse? Solve the incentives.
Everything you say is true, but that “trickle down” you mention really is a trickle. Most of the yoububers I watch have patreon pages, or advertisers who they mention during the video, or a merch store, or their own creator-owned video site they’re hawking. Youtube itself doesn’t pay that much, but offers access to such a huge audience, that it’s worth it anyway. There’s no reason they couldn’t do all of that on Peertube (I don’t think), but why would they, if there’s no audience there.
both creators and audience needs to be brought over, and to do so, there needs to be incentives to bring people over. i.e. if your personal creators income is higher through peertube, then you as a creator would use both peertube and youtube to maximize profits, if for an audience peertube has an advantage, then slowly the migration will happen. LBRY has a functional incentive but struggles for various reasons. if peertube finds a good equilibrium, it could shine.
but, like facebook, youtube also have deals in poor countries to provide affordable video streaming outside of a traditional subscription / data plan.
not if someone like pewdiepie joins everyone would announce it like It’s an achievement and celebrate it.
I think the current model of it is good in a way, because there is no clickbait shit unlike on YouTube. (Or less)
current model is not strong enough to aid migration. none of the fediverse has an advantage, currently. mastodon is arguably the biggest, and they too have seen a drop in users since the hype a while back (when famous people also moved to the platform). the problem is to sustain migration and maintain growth. hype is not going to do that. hype is temporary. if there are no incentives, then the platform will die or be repurposed by a different clientel for reasons other than being a competitor to the corporate alternatives.
Corporate platforms earn money through ads, and this money trickle down to the creators. Creators bring viewers to the platform. It’s full circle.
can we somehow like, recreate this circle?
edit; well It’s really just ads that we need to solve.
For the fediverse to bring creators over, there needs to be a monetary incentive for them. The fediverse being in opposition of both ads and profits
That can actually be a strong selling point, doing some modifications to peertube so it could deliver ads and creators could keep a bigger share of it (which is OK, there is nothing wrong with making money, especially for small and independent creators).
if i created content, my main concern would be to maximize profits without costs. i think, a delivery system allowing a content creator to push their content on multiple platforms effortlessly (as long as said platforms make money) could be an ideal way to create growth. that would solve creation. but, creating content without getting momentum is wasted effort, there also needs to be incentives for consumers of said content to use the platform.
There are a few artists and illustrators on Mastodon nowadays, for example
Pixelfed also has a vibrant community of photographers and artists on it. I think it will take time before we start seeing comparable number of creators to commercial platforms, but creators are definitely starting to use Fediverse already.
Hello! 👋 I’m here, already! 😁
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