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    Don’t worry, EU leaders were incredibly hurt by this and are doing everything to make life in EU worse. Double digit inflation, quadrupling energy bills are mere first steps.

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        2 years ago

        Their actions did. Supply and demand and what happen if you suddenly refuse to buy from your major supplier without alternative ready to fill the difference? That’s pretty obvious to anyone so if they did it, that’s their responsibility.

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          Europe did not refuse to buy gas from Russia. Russia just stopped selling gas to Europe.

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            They did for months. Russia was blocked from the SWIFT system which was used for the international transactions, mostly in euro and dollars. So Russia could literally not sell anything because it would not get paid. So they wanted to get paid in rubles and even set up exchange accounts in Russia in order to do so. Several EU countries did it, like Hungary, Bulgaria and Italy. Only after months of naked hostility and economic warfare Russia refused to trade, small wonder considering EU is openly declaring itself enemy to Russia.

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              The SWIFT ban was specifically designed to not block any gas, oil or coal related trades between Russia and Europe, so that these can continue as the EU was very much aware that this kind of sanctions results into no benefit for them.

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                At the same time western banks frozen all russian assets. That’s declaration of the total economic warfare, so those clauses were not serious. Not to mention so many different sanctions to confuse even hardened clerk from Brussels.

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                  Well, that’s what you get if you de facto invade a country that’s friends with major parts of the EU. Kreml should be glad that it’s only soft power being used against Russia as of today.

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                    Completely ignoring NATO encroachment and coup attempts at it’s allies. You imperialists shills scream about “national intertests” and “enemy at the gates” but never allow any other countries to act on theirs.

                    Kreml should be glad that it’s only soft power being used against Russia as of today.

                    Nice warmongering, you’re itching at the very prospect of nuclear war.

                    friends

                    You mean “puppet”. Unless you’re at this level of hawking where you cannon foddering your friends.

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                EU started an economic war with Russia and then was surprised when Russia retaliated. Why would Russia sell energy to EU when EU is openly hostile to Russia?

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                  Russia started the war on Ukraine and was surprised that Ukraine (and it’s allies) retaliated. Why would the Ukraine stop fighting Russia if Russia is obviously invading the Ukraine?

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                    I’m not sure where you got this notion that Russia was surprised by anything here. If anything, it’s pretty clear that Russia was well prepared for the war unlike the west. Ukraine should stop fighting because the longer the war goes on the more of their country becomes destroyed, and eventually there may not be an Ukraine left. Ukraine cannot win this war.

                    In fact, Ukraine was going to negotiate peace with Russia back in April at which point it would’ve kept all of its territory. That’s when Bojo intervened to convince Ukraine to walk away from the deal. Now, Ukraine has lost four regions, and will keep losing territory.