• @Sh3Rm4n@lemmy.ml
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    This meme is pretty inaccurate IMO.

    First I think most Russians who are speaking like this would like to (and probably are) stay(ing) in Russia.

    Second the EU is blocking most russians to enter it. Which is bad, as those who flee Russia mostly are not in favor of the Russian government. And I worry that closing the borders for Russians just strengthens the anti-russian sentiment in EU countries, while Russians (the people, not the government) are not fault of the current situation.

      • Idk i feel like there is some commentary needed about how many people from Ukraine and Baltics worked in Russia. Or how imperialist countries fuck up countries they are imperializing so of course people would follow their stolen wealth. Or how Russia development regressed at least 30 years and had losses comparable to WW2 in time of peace when it was imperialized by the west after unlawful destruction of USSR.

        So if that’s a humour, it’s a pretty ghastly one. Something like the thief, murderer, slaver and rapist (let’s not forget human trafficking happening in Europe after 1991) laughing at its victim.

    • poVoq
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      52 years ago

      Who lives in Canada of all places; replace the eu flag with the canadian one and you got a perfect fit…

        • @leif@beehaw.org
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          -22 years ago

          You left the society you could improve and seek to destroy the one you’re currently in. There’s no “improvement” on your part

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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            62 years ago

            My parents left Russia when I was a child, I had no agency in that. Meanwhile, criticizing the society one lives in is precisely the right thing to do. That’s how progress happens. No improvement comes from people cheering on atrocities of the regimes they live under.

  • @PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
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    -22 years ago

    Don’t worry, EU leaders were incredibly hurt by this and are doing everything to make life in EU worse. Double digit inflation, quadrupling energy bills are mere first steps.

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        Their actions did. Supply and demand and what happen if you suddenly refuse to buy from your major supplier without alternative ready to fill the difference? That’s pretty obvious to anyone so if they did it, that’s their responsibility.

        • @Sh3Rm4n@lemmy.ml
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          Europe did not refuse to buy gas from Russia. Russia just stopped selling gas to Europe.

          • They did for months. Russia was blocked from the SWIFT system which was used for the international transactions, mostly in euro and dollars. So Russia could literally not sell anything because it would not get paid. So they wanted to get paid in rubles and even set up exchange accounts in Russia in order to do so. Several EU countries did it, like Hungary, Bulgaria and Italy. Only after months of naked hostility and economic warfare Russia refused to trade, small wonder considering EU is openly declaring itself enemy to Russia.

            • @Sh3Rm4n@lemmy.ml
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              42 years ago

              The SWIFT ban was specifically designed to not block any gas, oil or coal related trades between Russia and Europe, so that these can continue as the EU was very much aware that this kind of sanctions results into no benefit for them.

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                At the same time western banks frozen all russian assets. That’s declaration of the total economic warfare, so those clauses were not serious. Not to mention so many different sanctions to confuse even hardened clerk from Brussels.

                • @Aarkon@feddit.de
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                  Well, that’s what you get if you de facto invade a country that’s friends with major parts of the EU. Kreml should be glad that it’s only soft power being used against Russia as of today.

              • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆
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                12 years ago

                EU started an economic war with Russia and then was surprised when Russia retaliated. Why would Russia sell energy to EU when EU is openly hostile to Russia?

                • @Sh3Rm4n@lemmy.ml
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                  02 years ago

                  Russia started the war on Ukraine and was surprised that Ukraine (and it’s allies) retaliated. Why would the Ukraine stop fighting Russia if Russia is obviously invading the Ukraine?