• Cătă@libranet.de
    33·
    2 years ago

    @yogthos Perhaps more people should learn about the horseshoe theory. This should raise more awareness about extremism and make our societies better. Do notice that:

    <details class=“spoiler”><summary>Click to open/close</summary>I actually do see this theory applied on Lemmy as well, as I cannot see any difference between actual communists and people on the far right in certain regards.</details>

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
          23·
          2 years ago

          What I’m seeing is a bunch of asinine nonsense that has been debunked time and again. The fact that you posted this nonsense unironically and don’t even realize how absurd it is really says volumes. My favorite example of the absurdities you quoted is the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact which ignores the fact that USSR repeatedly called on the west to ally against Germany, and the fact that US companies continued to work with the nazis deep into the war. Every comment I’ve read from you has been deeply imbecilic, but this one truly takes the cake.

          • Cătă@libranet.de
            2·
            2 years ago

            @yogthos “debunked”

            Okay, keeping the conversation on Molotov-Ribbentrop - why was the USSR forced to annex Bessarabia, why was it forced to annex Northern Bukovina (a strip of land that the Tsarist Russia NEVER owned)? Why was it forced to attack Finland? Why was it forced to annex parts of former Poland? Why was it forced not to return those territories after the end of WWII?

            Where’s the argument for “oh, poor little over-12-timezones-stretching Soviet Union once got too scared by Nazi Germany and redraw the map of Central-Eastern Europe” in this situation? Did you see UK or France annexing territories of sovereign European nations just to keep them safe from Hitler? Does your mind comprehend the concept of border inviolability? Do you understand the reasoning done behind it?

            Imagine if the US just sent troops to Cuba to annex parts of it so that it won’t fall down in the hands of the commies - did that happen? Did that happen to any country in this very world?

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
              22·
              2 years ago

              It’s pretty amazing that anybody could be such an utter ignoramus as to unironically ask what territories UK or France annex. The west colonized countless countries. UK murdered so many people in America that it changed the climate. UK brutally colonized India and committed a genocide there under Churchill. The west committed atrocities in China for a whole century. The west today is invading countries left and right having killed over 6 million people in its war on terror.

              Imagine having to imagine if US sent troops to Cuba, which they did, and where US currently occupies territory. I simply refuse to believe that you could be so utterly ignorant not to know these things, which leaves the conclusions that you’re just a sad troll who’s not even good at trolling.

              • Cătă@libranet.de
                1·
                2 years ago

                @yogthos

                The west colonized countless countries.

                Did they do it with the explicit goal of stopping Nazi Germany, or did they do that just because they were European and “had” to do this European stuff that all empires did at that time?

                and where US currently occupies territory

                Wow, is that one entire region or is just a place with one base where they sometimes torture people convicted of terrorism the same way as the Soviet Union did?

                you’re just a sad troll who’s not even good at trolling.

                I might be a bad troll, but I’m sure as hell not on either end of the horseshoe like your history shows as well.

                • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
                  21·
                  2 years ago

                  Did they do it with the explicit goal of stopping Nazi Germany, or did they do that just because they were European and “had” to do this European stuff that all empires did at that time?

                  No, they did it with the explicit goal of subjugating the people in those countries and plundering their resources. Europeans continue to do that today.

                  Wow, is that one entire region or is just a place with one base where they sometimes torture people convicted of terrorism the same way as the Soviet Union did?

                  Yeah, it’s just a torture camp that US put on the soil it annexed from Cuba, no biggie. US is literally the champion of invading countries and brutalizing their populations. Yet, here you are pretending that USSR was somehow worse. Really shows that you don’t actually have any morals to speak of.

                  I might be a bad troll, but I’m sure as hell not on either end of the horseshoe like your history shows as well.

                  The horseshoe theory was invented by imbeciles and continues to be parroted by imbeciles. It’s not a real thing as anybody with a modicum of historical literacy knows.

  • guojing@lemmy.ml
    412·
    2 years ago

    In other words, everyone who has a different opinion from me is a nazi. At least that’s how many people online see it.

    • redtea@lemmygrad.ml
      12·
      2 years ago

      That’s not what this picture is saying.

      The picture acknowledges that liberalism is the ideology of capitalism but when capitalism is threatened by its own contradictions, it will turn to fascism to protect itself. This sequence is an historical fact.

      Ironically, perhaps, within liberalism, which rejects and lacks material analysis, ‘everything I don’t like is fascism’ is an accepted framework. Because liberals refuse to accept that fascism is a related ideology of their beloved capitalism. Without a material analysis, liberals cannot see that it is they who will become fascists to protect capitalism.