"As some of you may know, Hexbear development has been mostly inactive
for a few months now. While the site could survive in this state
indefinitely, there is nobody to fix bugs, and we are missing out on
over a year of progress made on upstream Lemmy. Example features
upstream have since implemented:
- User blocking
- Avatar/banners for users and communities
There are many, many others, and the list continues to grow. Going back
to Lemmy would also mean the ability to use Hexbear through mobile apps.
It is unclear if some of our features, such as our emotes and our
featured threads, can be merged upstream. Thus, the proposal is to
**fork Lemmy again**, this time deliberately not diverging too far from
upstream so it's easier to maintain the patches and apply them on top of
each new Lemmy release.
This is a large undertaking. There is no timeline, but we expect it to
be a while before the site is migrated over to the finished fork.
We're still in the early stages, but the more people involved the sooner we can progress. Primarily, we need
developers (Rust & TypeScript) and ops/infrastructure people. Please
reach out to me [via Matrix](https://matrix.to/#/@ella:chapo.chat) if
you're interested in helping out. Thanks all.
Nothing official yet, but Hexbear may be bringing some of their previous devs back to contribute upstream. Along with that would come a userbase roughly comparable to lemmy.ml’s daily activity. Their daily megathread regularly surpasses 1000 comments
Does that mean that I will be allowed to choose pronoun in Lemmy?
Would be interesting if https://pronoun.is is used as source.
What does unforking mean? I read the post and don’t follow.
They are going from hexbear.exe to hexlemmybear.exe basically?
It means that the Hexbear fork is going to eventually be replaced with a slightly modified version of an up-to-date Lemmy. And that process will involve Hexbear community members contributing to Lemmy to try and get some of the Hexbear-specific features implemented upstream
I hope this goes through, it would be great to have another major instance doing it’s own thing and would help avoid the semi-problem of lemmy.ml being the de-facto instance with the most activity by far. As it is hexbear has locked new comm creation, which if brought over through the lemmy migration would incentivize using existing communities on other lemmy instances.
It seems dead anyways… hope they make some PRs
I hope they do it. I thought it was a mistake when they decided to rewrite the codebase with no hope of merging the federation changes. Federating their community could have brought thousands of active users into the lemmy network. Instead, it became this isolated community. I’m glad they are reconsidering now.
I understood why it was done, but I think if the defork succeeds the end result will be a net positive
Was it because of the amount of traffic they were getting ior something?
Yeah both codebases were moving very quickly and by the time the pull requests were compiled and reviewed, both the Lemmy and Hexbear codebases were several commits ahead. It was taking up all the time of an entire core maintainer at Hexbear to manage conflicts and fix pull requests. Meanwhile the site was at the peak of its new launch spike and nearing the peak of the US presidential primary/election cycle, which was r/CTH’s bread and butter. The database was less optimized back then and Diesel did not (and iirc still does not) support cross joins, which was a major detriment to the optimizations Hexbear ended up using
I hope they start contributing upstream, their fork looks really nice and ti would be awesome if they could merge some of that.
I’m working on redoing posts a bit, but some things I’m changing seem like they were design choices to do the opposite of what I’m doing.
We have the best emojis folks, many people are saying this.
Emoji support would indeed be super awesome. but from the comments in Hexbear it seems everyone would like to remain as a fork.
In terms of looks, their entire frontend was rewritten from the ground up in React. So some of that may be reusable but I’m sure the design itself will be reused either way