In this case, he said the video of Kirk’s death is newsworthy given the fact that he is a public figure who was killed at a public event.
Saved you a click.
Release the Trump/Epstein files
Incite further right wing rage?
“Fighting hortler will only make him more angry…”
Where epstein files ?
Charlie has so many videos saying “release the Epstein files” that I’m suprise Lefty’s aren’t capitalizing on them. Plus so many others where he says things that can be clipped. Like think of the collecting rrrreeeeeeeeeee from these fucks if Lefty’s were posting pro gun clips of him under all their fake empathy posts
I am seeing a huge amount of that on Lemmy and Mastodon.
Right, so the end result is what?
We’re watching the world slip further and further into the opinion that Charlie Kirk was a good man. There’s no resistance to anything they say anymore because we’re all on Lemmy and mastodon where nobody but us are.
No matter what Kirk is going to be saintwashed by the right. Don’t forget that they will always build their preferred reality around themselves. I get your frustration but it’s important to remember that nothing you say will ever change a rightists mind. God itself could appear in the sky and tell off every evil, self-centered, delusional rightist to their face and they would still find a way to ignore it. Speech doesn’t work on rightists. Logic doesn’t work on rightists. Hard evidence doesn’t work on rightists.
This is why all the leftists on Lemmy are calling for impactful forms of protest. Until we get in the streets and shut everything down and impact their lives and livelihoods and stock prices nobody is going to negotiate. Power is all they recognize, and they are going to do everything they can to make sure we don’t have any.
Leftists might try to capitalize on Epstein.
But liberals aren’t leftists. The liberal establishment won’t promote the Epstein story because liberals are also deeply implicated.
Similarly liberals collaborate with fascists. They’re not going to be trolling them. They’re going to be memorializing kirk and calling for “civility” or whatever the fuck. NPR did like a full day of Kirk memorialization.
So yes, libs are less than worthless. But that has nothing to do with leftism.
I just want to say you’re a problem. I view you the same way I view Charlie Kirk
Because censorship of topical newsworthy events is antithetical to freedom. Sure first the censorship will start with “gruesome” but it won’t stop there, let people opt out, but it shouldn’t be scrubbed from existence.
I hate when they delete stuff, like… do you want conspiracy theories to spread? Because that’s how conspiracy theories spread.
It’s all about controlling how people see the world.
If we’re only exposed to “disney, safe for china” media, then that’s all people will think the world consists of.
They (people richer than us) don’t want us seeing the reality of guns, only their carefully curated fantasies.
Yeah this is widely applied. From ag-gag laws that hide the brutality of animal torture/murder to the killing of journalists in palestine. ETC.
People in the imperial core are constantly shielded from the reality of their “culture”.
I agree with this viscerally.
A lot of people are expressing sympathy for the people in the Kirk crowd, but honestly I think it might be a good thing for them — to see first hand what Kirk and the Republican rhetoric is actually advocating for. Maybe it’ll snap them out of the fantasies they have of culling “undesirables”.
If they are mentally capable of making the connection between the things he advocated for, and those things happening directly to him.
My guess: they’ll use this as their latest example of the “violent left” without evidence, as is tradition
the problem is that due to the algorithmic nature of social media it ends up getting pushed to people who don’t want to see it.
Links? I missed the whole thing
Directed by Quentin Tarantino
I hadn’t watched it till now… yuck!
but probably something anyone that wants to talk about this should see
but it got me thinking, I think the shooter was aiming for his mouth and the drift made the shot hit a little lower
He seems an adept shooter. I’d bet he was aiming for center mass like a good little sniper. But one can hardly ask the local range if he can practice from their sloping roof out to 250 yards.
Sheeeesh
Yeah, no desire to see it myself. I was on the fence about reporting a still shot I saw on IG. Don’t suppress but don’t advertise.
It’s very gruesome. I was not prepared.
Meh. I guess I’ve watched too many Russians getting merked in Ukraine.
Which is odd you know? I thought “meh I’ve seen some sick shit” but nope. One minute he’s a racist accelerationist bigot and the next moment he still is but his brain is clearly whack and blood is rushing down his neck.
Movies and videogames don’t come remotely close to representing it accurately
I’ve even see other videos of people getting killed before, and they were not this bad. Not often; I’m not someone who generally seeks that stuff out. Maybe it’s because of the bright lighting, high clarity, and comparatively high resolution of this one, combined with a gunshot wound that had very gory and visible results.
For me it’s mostly how the body reacts to the bullet, the hands going up a little Ina reflex, but you can see he’s already lost control of his body. That part is always what gets me
I think what gets people about this one is the large amount of blood that comes from severing a major artery like that and it funneling out through such a focused point followed by how quickly he reacts, goes into shock, then goes limp.
Most gore people get to see, even the real stuff, is much more initially destructive. So the blood goes everywhere all at once and there is very little time or ability to see the immediate reaction of the injured person.
For me, most of the worst stuff I’ve seen that is not tv/movie make believe that was the most unsettling had very little gore in the traditional sense. It was the reaction of the person that got injured that made it unsettling and the slow realization they make of what happened and is currently happening. There is a much more calm yet panicked tone to it than someone getting ran over by a tank or their head cut off by a terrorist.
Kirk’s killer seems to have used some large calibre weapon which probably made it look so particularly brutal and bloody.
It was a .30-06, a 7.62mm round, similar to an AK-47 (ARs uses5.56mm). They make big exit wounds.
Given how close the round hit to his brain and the fact that it hit a major artery, he likely died due to the hydrostatic shock from the impact.
He likely didn’t even know he was hit, he was seizing immediately and all of his body motion after the impact was involuntary.
Meh. Not that bad. Glad to see dude go.
Zios are murdering kds and their whole families every day. That’s something that’s actually gruesome.
So you believe that people should get murdered for expressing their opinions, got it.
You can disagree with political violence and also not be upset that he’s dead.
Conflating the two is disingenuous
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It’s still up, in some places.
Soon only the dark web will have it.
I mean, I don’t like seeing that shit,
but I also don’t like living in make-belief land
where the horrors of life are kept hidden
by our “well-meaning” overlordsI found it on wikipedia of all places
Why not? It seems like an appropriate place.
They had a whole edit war about whether it should be included and locked the article.
What was the resolution?
Looks like they’ve decided against inclusion. It’s also unlikely the video meets “fair use” standards so they’d have to delete it anyway…
I couldn’t find the discussion on both talk pages (for personal article and the killing article)
