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          Exactly. We better stop using Chrome. I mean, we should stop using Google products altogether. But for YouTube, it’s impossible to find an alternative that has the same content.

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    So infuriating… Sadly, I can’t even boycott YouTube because of how much good content it has

    Note: Btw, don’t think that I’m one of those normies who use YouTube on its official app with my account logged in and definitely don’t think I’m a normie that doesn’t use an ad-blocker

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      Personally i only use youtube to doomscroll “shorts” because I don’t have facebook, instagram or tik tok for that. It’s really no pleasure as such, but a good way to just turn wind down.

      My main issue is that most of the information and knowledge that i used to get from reading blog posts, or forum threads, has become videos, with the majority of the content being irellevant

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      I pay for premium in a group of 6. We pay like 6€ each and get YouTube Music on top.

      People are too used to free stuff. The amount of bandwidth YouTube requires is absolutely mindboggingly huge and can’t possibly be profitable.

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        bandwidth should be nationalized or otherwise a municipal public utility so people can compete easier tbh. We do this with roads, water, electricity, etc. Get libertarians on board with data privacy insurances at the federal level so big brother cant spy on public bandwidth. Massie and Rand Paul could buck for that

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        Yeah, it’s generally not a profitable business. But not when people make accounts, use those accounts to watch content and also comment and like-dislike content. They track your every move. They’re an ad company and that’s how they make a profit. I would have paid a subscription for the service if they were a honest company and didn’t invade other people’s privacy without their permission.

        Look man, there are a lot of ways to use YouTube and have a great experience. You don’t need to pay money to them just to have a good experience. Just use YouTube in Brave Browser or Firefox with uBlock Origin enabled or maybe with an ad-block enabled on your device 🤷 Well, just my suggestion. You’re free to do as you like

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          I know. Unfortunately the alternatives are pay-to-win (Odysee) or political (Rumble).

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            That’s exactly why I posted the main comment in the first place lol. I can replace Google Search by switching to other search engines but in terms of YouTube, there’s no competitor that is better or equal to it in terms of quality content

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          That way there are no ads and no fees, you become (in theory) a net negative to Google.

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            Not interested in those apps because I watch YouTube in Brave and it’s giving me the best experience compared to other alternatives. Why are y’all thinking I’m a normie who watches YouTube on its official app with my account logged in and with all the ads

            Edit: No hate to you though

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      …what? Go do something else instead of watching YouTube-style content then. Read a book. Take up knitting. Do crosswords.

      You can live a full life without Internet videos.

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    Yeah Google has been “toll-bridging” features into paid-premium since removal of ability to pause with screen off in YouTube.

    I wouldnt be surprised if corporate greed forces them to remove pausing videos altogether. Not premium can’t pause!

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      I don’t care when my only way to watch YouTube it’s either:

      • on Firefox with uBlock Origin
      • on ReVanced
      • on SmartTube (for Android TV)
      • by downloading the video through yt-dlp
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      This is why I am just going to pay networks of my favorite youtubers directly when YouTube finally gets too bad to use. I’m never paying for RedTube or whatever the fuck porny ass name their premium service has so that Google gets most of my money and Mr beast gets a cut while the people I actually watch get nothing. I pay for Dropout already and that shit is so much better than Netflix and other services. Sure it’s low budget but it’s still better than the slop all the big companies are shoveling out of their troughs.

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      Then it’ll become a premium feature to choose your videos otherwise you’ll have to consult a personalised video guide to see when the videos you want to watch will be playing.

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      corporate greed

      There’s no way YouTube is even remotely profitable even with the massive amounts of ads on the free version…

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        They’re almost certainly one of the more profitable Google services or they’d have been cut loose by now.

        Google serves ads, YouTube is a great platform for them to serve ads, and they don’t even have to pay content creators that much, because they serve their own ads. The biggest expense is probably bandwidth and memory, which Google owns enough of to sell off bits they aren’t using.

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    Lol nope, out of principle I will never pay for this even if I didn’t already hate Google.

    It feels so condescending to the user, so unconcerned with their agency that I could never bring myself to support this choice with even a tiny amount of money.

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      100% agree. The problem is that there are more and more features that get tugged behind the subscription paywall

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      Same here. I’m sick of seeing people say stuff like “just pay for Premium bro”. Stfu. That’s like paying the mafia for “protection” from them. YouTube created these problems and now I have to pay them to fix it? Fuck no.

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    I can barely follow and absorb anything at 1.5-2x.

    Beyond that, more power to you.

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        Speeds over 2x were never a free feature, they just used to not be an option at all.

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      Yeah, 2x is normally my limit, sometimes 2.5x. Very occasionally there will be content that gets 3x or more, but it’s incredibly rare. It has to be something pretty slow.

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      Some lectures and instruction videos are only watchable at 4x or higher.

      Luckily there’s extensions and alternative apps that provide a much better user experience than the default one, including being able to increase playback speed as much as you want.

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      I am not one to fear the terminal, but do people actually use this to browse YT? What does this workflow look like? Searching video URLs, manually copying them into this cli, and then opening the downloaded file?

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        Check out MeTube. It is just a wrapper for ytp-dl. You can set extention in a way that only icon needs to be clicked. Everything is automated. No need to do anything in CLI.

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        No, it isn’t useful to browse.

        I use it for grabbing low quality music and ‘subscribing’ to various channels (checks and downloads new videos every 10m) in order to avoid having to give the algorithm my eyeballs.

        If you just want to scroll, something like FreeTube would do what you want. It blocks ads and has sponsorblock built-in. You can subscribe to videos via the app (which is all stored locally, not in any account, you don’t have to log-in.)

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    You can use yt-dlp to download it and play it in whatever movie player you want that supports variable speeds, unless and until YouTube cracks down on downloading.

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      I use jdownloader2. I think it uses yt-dl on the backend though? Like the original yt-dl. I’m not sure.

      I was curious so I downloaded the Mac version of yt-dlp (as I am on Mac), couldn’t get it to run. And I’m comfortable with the command line.

      YouTube kinda is cracking down on downloading though. If a video is marked as adult (you need to sign in to view it), it can’t be downloaded. A lot of “official videos” (like trailers from the studio) can’t be downloaded. Subtitles can’t be downloaded. That’s in jd2. Not sure about yt-dlp.

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        Yt-dlp all those work, though you may need log in (cookie) for ‘adult’ content

        But i dl with subtitles every time ‘–write-auto-subs’ or ‘–write-subs en’ or ‘all’, also got ‘–convert-subs srt’ yt-dlp the goat

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          Nice, but that doesn’t work on my machine as of yet.

          It’s weird that the default archive utility we (Mac users) all use (The Unarchiver) can’t do .7z files, but if they’re downloaded through jdownloader2, they unzip just fine. The actual 7-Zip application is only available as a command line interface on Mac, whereas on Windows, as you probably know, it’s more like a file manager.

          One of these days I’ll get yt-dlp working on my Mac. Even being in the same folder as it, typing yt-dlp in the terminal doesn’t open it. That’s how it worked in DOS/Windows (or you had it in a folder you declared in PATH= in Autoexec.bat, back in the day), but Mac/UNIX terminal is something I have very little experience in. Comfortable with it, but inexperienced. So I suppose I have some reading to do. Especially if the subs work as well as you say.

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            Aye yeah that’s fair, in that case i’d recommend PeaZip, it’s what I use on my CachyOS setup since 7zip is just cli on Unix. PeaZip has a nice file manager UI.

            In terms of yt-dlp it really depends how you installed it…

            Assuming you’re in the folder where yt-dlp is:

            1. Make it executable

            chmod +x yt-dlp

            2. Run it directly from the current folder

            ./yt-dlp --version

            If that works, then the binary is fine and it’s just a PATH thing.

            I’d recommend just installing it through Homebrew personally, it will sort out the PATH for you automatically.

            install Homebrew if you don’t have it (from brew.sh)

            then:

            brew install yt-dlp

            yt-dlp --version

            Otherwise if you want to make the binary work (if you already have the file or want to download it manually)

            Open the folder in terminal and then

            move it somewhere on PATH

            sudo mv yt-dlp /usr/local/bin/yt-dlp

            make sure it’s executable

            sudo chmod a+rx /usr/local/bin/yt-dlp

            Now whichever way you choose, you should be able to just do:

            yt-dlp https://example.com/video --write-auto-subs

            Along with whatever other commands you want to use!

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              Thanks! Should have known I could install it with brew. I installed that pretty early on. It’s now updating a bunch of stuff because I really don’t use it that much.

              I think some of your commands are Linux-specific but I’m going with the homebrew installation.

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        I think it uses yt-dl on the backend though? Like the original yt-dl.

        You’re probably thinking of youtube-dl. I’d guess that it most-likely used that at one point, but probably switched to yt-dlp when YouTube started throttling single-stream downloads.