• Zerush@lemmy.ml
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    Rusia invaded Ukraine, its terrible and criminal, but US invaded

    1. Grenada (1983-1984)

    2. Bolivia (1986)

    3. Virgin Islands (1989)

    4. Liberia (1990; 1997; 2003)

    5. Saudi Arabia (1990-1991)

    6. Kuwait (1991)

    7. Somalia (1992-1994; 2006)

    8. Bosnia (1993-)

    9. Zaire/Congo (1996-1997)

    10. Albania (1997)

    11. Sudan (1998)

    12. Afghanistan (1998; 2001-)

    13. Yemen (2000; 2002-)

    14. Macedonia (2001)

    15. Colombia (2002-)

    16 Pakistan (2005-)

    1. Syria (2008; 2011-)

    2. Uganda (2011)

    3. Mali (2013)

    4. Niger (2013)

    5. Yugoslavia (1919; 1946; 1992-1994; 1999)

    6. Iraq (1958; 1963; 1990-1991; 1990-2003; 1998; 2003-2011)

    7. Angola (1976-1992)

    A nobody bothered in the west. A lot of hipocresy out there

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        They already tried it once, but now it is too much risk for them to provoke a nuclear war so close to their borders, which breaks out in the EC is more affordable for them and the embargo on Cuba and its prison in Guantánamo are more profitable.

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      [And] nobody bothered in the west

      That’s definitely not true. I’m not saying these movements are heard or effective, but there’s still a strong anti-war/anti-colonial movement in the West, in both the decolonial circles and in the libertarian networks.

      You should definitely be pointing this out in regards to hypocrisy of state/industry-controlled media and the variable empathy bombed people get from them. I definitely upvoted.

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        … but there’s still a strong anti-war/anti-colonial movement in the West, in both the decolonial circles and in the libertarian networks.

        So not where it matters. Thanks for clarifying.

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          Good point! The big “liberal” parties fail to join a more nuanced understanding, i would argue for two main reasons:

          • the third-world / revolutionary anti-imperialist movement has mostly died out: most (though not all) decolonized territories have either become a neocolony or a colonialist power of their own (sometimes both, as is the case of some former french colonies fighting against their own separatists) ; as a result, internationalist/anti-imperialist discourse on the international scene has mostly vanished
          • most media groups in the west have been consolidated under State control, or control by private industrial empires, and there is no more “free press” around here (except for a handful of independent publications who publish all the majors leaks/scandals, like Le Canard Enchainé or Mediapart here in France) ; radical discourse from intellectuals and NGOs is no longer tolerated in mainstream media, and as a result racist/imperialist propaganda is the only propaganda you hear on TV

          It’s also worth noting that political repression against State discourse has accelerated greatly in the west. In France after the 2015 Daech attacks, hundreds of militants (most of whom anarchist or ecologist activists) were placed on house arrest, hundreds of houses/buildings were searched, politicians have been targeted/sued for promoting an anti-imperialist analysis of Daech attacks (and the role of the french military in oppression worldwide), and 8-15 year-old kids have been detained for daring to ask questions or not agreeing with the State narrative at school.

          This means only the more radical segments of society (people who struggle against climate change, corruption, police abuse…) get to hear those more nuanced arguments, while the masses get to consume either western propaganda or russian propaganda.

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      Should probably mention that your list isn’t comprehensive. It doesn’t include all the US invasions (for example Lebanon and Guatemala)

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        Anyway it isn’t complete, you can count ca.200 invasions since the independence day.In their history, they had invaded nearly every country worldwide, with few exceptions.