edit: having a community dedicated to letists only can be a bad idea in that it can make sure your beliefs are not questioned. I have thought myself as a socialist and I have thought myself as a anarcho-capitalist, I don’t believe in either anymore. I think if radical views go unchecked they might cause problems. Although I am a capitalist now, being confronted by socialists has made me aware of capitalisms deep flaws. When I considered myself a communist (17 year old me) I thought opposing views really changed my mind. So that’s the ideologically diversity I am talking about.
I love the outlook of lemmy, I think the design is decent and simplistic. But one thing I can’t seem to get over is the fact that almost everyone here seem to think the same politically. Why do you guys think this is?? I know this is a community of leftists foss enthusiasts but I hope everyone here is aware that it is driving many people away from adapting it.
If you’re not keen on seeing posts from “right” leaning extremist, I’m not sure where to point you. “Centrist” communities are going to let that stuff slide, and obviously “right” focused communities are just going to be the most insane things you’ve ever seen
If you aren’t a “Trump’s America” apologist, you’re best bet is to just find a “left” community of people that largely aren’t extremists. Lemmy is fine, HexBear is okay… not sure what else though
I am actually a supporter of Trump’s policies, although he is not fit to lead US after Jan 6. not a fucking racist like those folks at voat. I wonder what brings that out. That site makes me puke. Thanks for the reply tho. My respect for Lemmy greatly increased after visiting voat.
oh well, the centrist is really just a right winger, how shocking
I am not a centrist, I want to be in a platform with them.
I’m trying to extend Reddit’s /r/moderatepolitics to !moderatepolitics@sopuli.xyz. The Reddit community isn’t centrist per se, but more tries to produce a forum with a baseline level of respect during discussions. There are a pretty decent variety of viewpoints represented in the Reddit community, clustering vaguely in the ideological center. The outpost on Lemmy is currently dead, but that can change. :)
Jan 6 didn’t just magically happen in isolation. Trump, through his public speeches, actively encouraged ideas and theories that lead to that. Jan 6 was merely the result, to think of Jan 6 as a thing he and a few thousand people woke up and did one day is not a useful way of analyzing how to avoid it happening again; preventative treatment is the most effective.
A bunch of things. Modern Republicans appeal strongly to anti-progressivism (to paraphrase, “we resist the woke leftist socialism of the politically correct Democrats!”), engage in STRONG patriotism and nationalism (keeping “the Mexicans” out) and more so some things like “good people on both sides” and failing to denounce the rise of white nationalist terrorism (intentionally or not) act as dog-whistles and tacit encouragement, so naturally those racist crowds flock to him. In the false binary of Democrat and Republican, their choice is obvious. That clearly doesn’t mean ‘Trump supporters must be racist’, but it’s absolutely no surprise those millions of people flock to him.
Of course, that doesn’t mean Biden is good either. He’s also absolute shit, along with approximately the entire Democrat party (protip: most of the world would consider them center-to-right wing in that dumb left-right spectrum, apart from a couple of small social progressive policies). The electoral system of the US is ineffective, and it’s no surprise people are turning to radical groups in all directions in the past few years.
I agree and I felt sad that he did that. He was indifferent or positively ecstatic about the consequences of his speech. He put himself above the nation.
Again, I do think merit based immigration is a good thing, so as long as they want that I am not against them. (thank for the answer, I understand your point broadly. )
Maybe we need a dedicated thread, but “merit-based” immigration is a racist scam. When you go travel abroad with your fancy european/american ID, are you asked for the merits you’re gonna bring to the countries you’re visiting?
Why can i with a french passport travel anywhere in the former french colonies without a visa, while Mali/Senegal/etc citizens require a long process to acquire a visa?
What does it mean to judge people based on their “merit”? How is that evaluated? As someone born in France, should i be evaluated based on my merits too? Why do immigrants who wish to reside in France get indoctrinated/interrogated about about stories and ideas i disagree with as a french person? Why is it ok for me to disagree with the french Empire but not with immigrants?
I don’t in absolute (and in isolation from other questions) disagree with the principle of chosen immigration. If we lived in an autonomous community and could only sustain 200 people, we’d have to be careful who we let in and how they can help the community thrive. But “chosen” immigration on a country-scale in some of the richest countries on earth where there’s millions of empty dwellings and tons of wasted food is just a racist scam.
What would attract you about this idea? Why do you feel like it’s even needed in the first place?
PS: See, we can have debates here on lemmy.ml too :P :P
Lemmy the platform is diverse, lemmy.ml is not, but it doesn’t pretend to be. Did you look at the list of instances on https://join-lemmy.org/instances when choosing which one to join?
I guess it depends on the type of content do you want to engage in and what type of political discourse are you looking to engage in. Exploding-heads.com and wolfballs.com might be options, and beehaw.org has a politics section if you feel the need to engage. Also consider what instances the server blocks via the instances link at the bottom of the page when visiting.
Personally id love to see generalist instances push political discourse to gotalkitout https://gtio.io/c/politics which is a instance dedicated to discussion and currently does not block any instance.
I think the generalist ones like gtio.io are a solid idea, providing a mixing pot. That said, hope it doesn’t get a culture shock and become the classical ‘free speech’ case where it’s mostly just populated by people who feel censored elsewhere.
I also like the concept of ‘no politics, no exceptions’ communities, where that is appropriate (e.g. cat pictures). If I want serious politics, I’ll go to a political discussion community instead of seeing people shoehorn their agenda into comments.
me too bruh!