Today I noticed a huge wall of spam from UniversalMonk from 2 different accounts and didn’t initially think much of it and blocked their communities but more spam came from different communities.
At this point I checked and saw that they had created several communities which then led me down the rabbit hole to discover that their posts had almost entirely covered the new posts page of both sh.itjust.works and lemm.ee. Later on I discovered that they’re posting right-wing propaganda and misinformation from breitbart, foxnews you name it.
He’s already caused and stirred shit 2 months ago and clearly I can see why now.
At this point it’s difficult to believe that UniversalMonk will learn proper netiquette in: not post spamming, being considerate to others, and not sharing right-wing extremist content that no one wants.
Here’s the thing: without this thread, I might never have become aware of this user or their activities. Are you sure that what you’re doing isn’t counterproductive and giving them more undeserved attention?
Barbra Who???
I can see what you mean by that although for this case in an odd manner you actually want to highlight this problem.
This is another parallel system that was shown in this crazy GDC talk: 1,500 Slot Machines Walk into a Bar: Adventures in Quantity Over Quality
For background context Alex Schwartz and Ziba Scott launched premium mobile games to the Google Play Store in 2013 which unfortunately didn’t “help in making our money back and being able to make enough money to make the next game”. After having explored the storefront and finding nefarious apps and junk reskined clones everywhere they decided to intentionally flood the Google Play Store with junk slot machine games as a joke/experiment.
"There was a point in here that I don’t think was drilled home as hard as it could have been which was… if people are sneaking by with garbage the thing that we did was to put a huge neon sign with an arrow pointing at ourselves and the garbage next to us; illuminating the entire underbelly of dark weird App Store shit and so the idea that if you do it at scale clearly they’re(Google’s) going to notice and clearly they’re(Google’s) going to change the terms of service slowly to ice you out.
Hopefully others went down with us in the wake of that. Like we provided the perfect targeted spot to drop the missile uh so hopefully, hopefully that helped get rid of duplicate apps that were also in the area."
I agree with you. In this case it’s time to bring this up. I quietly blocked monk months ago because I was tired of seeing his shit in my feed, but I didn’t want to bring attention to his inflammatory posts. But that clearly hasn’t worked on a wider level. He’s still posting sketchy stuff and annoying other people here. Sometimes you have to call people out and the wider community has to act, even at the risk of drawing attention to the problem users.
I’ve come across him before, I think he moderates a right wing Lemmy community I’m a member of.
Removed by mod
According to this comment they have an account with your instance.
This fucker is still around eh? I remember him single-handedly sowing discord in c/politics around the time of the election with incessant pro 3rd party spam and insane tirades of sealioning - also report abuse if I remember right. Or at least taunting people into breaking rules and subsequently reporting them. I was amazed at the time that he was allowed to remain unbanned for ages in that sub when it was very clear what he was doing.
What’s wrong with advocating for 3p vote?
Did the party komissars prohibit these discussions in DNC controlled subs?
I agree with the sentiment but this here is not a complaints forum.
Please report that user and his communities to the admins of the instances he’s registered at. A quick look at the sidebars of both sh.itjust.works and lemm.ee would suggest that their admins banning him is a slam dunk.
Maybe ask at !support@lemm.ee and !main@sh.itjust.works what to do?
On the grounds of !fediverse not being a complaints forum, I’m going to lock this post.
In that case I also nominate @jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world who pretends to be left but posts an incredible amount of conservative propaganda and misinformation in all his little communities.
Ask them about Ukraine to get a good idea of what they stand for.
Why are we giving this person their stage again? How probable is it that the instance admins of the like 15 instances they have accounts on will all collectively ban him? It’s just your average nazi spammer on the internet. You’ve read that “bio” this person has. Even if they get banned, they’ll come back just on principle. Just block him like any sane person would do, leave him shadow banned like that with his nazi friends, and call it a day.
shadow banned
Do we have that on Lemmy?
No, but the more people block them, the less up votes and visibility they will receive for their posts.
On the other hand, letting them free has the risk of making this place a Nazi bar: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Nazi_bar
Everyone wanted to know how it would go for the “I just want people to support a 3rd party” folks after the election… Well, now you know!
Apologies I don’t really understand what you mean by that
I’m guessing this is a referral to the US election?
He was banned on lemmy.world for excessive Jill Stiein/3rd party spam prior to the election and the discussion at the time was “What will they do after the election?” Well, now you know. Right Wing all along.
ahh I see
Thank you for the clarification👍
I want to push back on this just a little. Clearly UM isn’t the bastion of consistent good thought, but others that were maligned like return2ozma have been pretty consistent in what they post.
This is to say, “Great, one person is a fuckup. Why are we attributing this to the whole group?”
Becuase 3p vote is the threat to neo libaral regimes… They requires polarization and two choices to lock us into endless cultures warz lesser of two evils, trust me bro vote for my guy…
They DNC would rather you vote for Trump than 3p lol
Still here chief!
oh, that tard’s still around? I blocked him months ago.
I can affirm my experience has been all the better for it, so yes, the rest of the fediverse should throw the Nazi out of the bar.
Oh wow. UM really is just a malignancy that refuses to go away, isn’t he? I’m all for allowing different opinions but if someone keeps peeing in the pool, sooner or later you stop letting him in.
Oh wow, that’s the first time I’ve seen this person’s userpage and read… whatever that is.
So fucking cringe.
Posting lying terrorist dens like breitbart or fox as news is ban-worthy on its own.
Jesus. Just openly demanding an echo chamber.
100% if he is breaking the ToS on multiple instances (and I would argue that spamming most likely is, not to mention the substance of the content)
He can always create his own instance and anyone who wants to see his content can join it as well. Instance admins shouldn’t feel obligated to give anyone a platform (ahem, .world), the fediverse is decentralized and democratic.
And Amoxtli@thelemmy.club too while we’re at it
Agreed.
“I’m from Texas! NATO is the absolute worst! Zelensky is corrupt! I’m from Texas! Trump is okay, I don’t see what the big deal is. I’m a socialist!”
Based on real events.
Edit: Actually, I should make clear. I don’t think mods should be trying to ban all the propaganda accounts. There is too much grey area, it’s impossible to do perfectly, and there is a real risk of censoring someone who is not propaganda but is just saying some unpopular thing. I do think that it’s worth making fun of the propaganda accounts when they are laughably obvious.
I do think that it’s worth making fun of the propaganda accounts when they are laughably obvious.
Exposing them and letting them flame out is credited approach.
They have a very narrow scope for shit they post.
I’m in the center. But as long as it’s not illegal, then it’s OK.
Also take note of !naziparty@lemm.ee aka “conservative”
Edit: !naziparty@sh.itjust.works and !naziparty@lemmy.world also
OK so you think every lemm.ee user is a nazi or something?
No but only few of them. I didnt see its users commenting getting mad everytime they see some news posts against the cons
And “NaziParty” did get almost all of their posts downvoted
I also see the communities with the same name in http://sh.itjust.works/ and http://lemmy.world/, all with the same users and downvotes
I’ll drink to that!
