I agree with @poVoq@lemmy.ml
What a Linux desktop needs is a user, who’s able to think and who not assumes that it has to work the way he is used to from Windows. Many are simply unwilling to learn and therefore reject Linux.
I don’t think this is the problem. GNU/Linux desktop are more than capable to provide a Windows-like UX with KDE + AppImage.
The problem in my personal opinion is that there’s bugs everywhere. All desktops are written in memory-unsafe languages and keep on reinventing the same wheels over and over again, reintroducing subtle bugs.
oh boy … this “memory-unsafe”-argument again 🤦
Even with a Windows looking desktop UI and usage of AppImages, it’s still no Windows! There are no .exe-Files for drivers and games. There is no Microsoft account you need to login to. There is no “installer” who ask for the path you want to install your program.
What’s wrong with the argument that playing compiler in your head is both a waste of energy and a sure way to write bugs? Aren’t you tired of unexpected resource usage, stuff that should work that reaches hard-to-reproduce edge-cases, and kids bypassing your screensaver.
There are no .exe-Files for drivers and games.
Really? Then what is Wine/NDISWrapper for? I’ve used Windows games and drivers in the past on my GNU/Linux system, and some of them sure used .exe extension.
There is no Microsoft account you need to login to.
Isn’t that a good thing? Also many people still use older windows where cloud login doesn’t exist. Does that mean it’s not Windows?
There is no “installer” who ask for the path you want to install your program.
Yet GNU defined the standard –prefix to choose where to install your software (make --prefix/Program\ Files/foobar).
I mean sure there’s no equivalent of the registry, Aero/Metro UI toolkit, Cortana, or centralized Windows store (except on Ubuntu with snap). But who said we had to have the bad bits? ;)
appimage is easy for me now, but it took me forever 2 years ago to figure out that --no-sandbox addition needed and i still am annoyed that I often have a problem getting the icon on a menu or panel.
i think we should be open to criticism so that we can improve Linux and thereby starve the BigTech beast. If you have weeds in your garden, don’t make excuses for them, yank them out or allow them to grow in more appropriate places.
I’ve used AppImages a bunch but i’ve never heard about “–no-sandbox” so far. Do you know of apps that won’t run without it?
i still am annoyed that I often have a problem getting the icon on a menu or panel.
I’ve personally had good luck with AppImageLauncher in the past, but lately i just run apps from terminal. There’s also a bunch of other solutions. Let me know what worked for you :)
i think we should be open to criticism so that we can improve Linux and thereby starve the BigTech beast.
100% agree.
If you have weeds in your garden, don’t make excuses for them
Some weeds are really good for your garden’s ecosystem in fact, but that’s off-topic :)
Since electron was apgraded or fixed, that appendage is no longer needed. I read that all of those appimages were made using electron.
I did have AppImageLauncher and used it a first, but forgot about it. No longer have it.
I agree with @poVoq@lemmy.ml
What a Linux desktop needs is a user, who’s able to think and who not assumes that it has to work the way he is used to from Windows. Many are simply unwilling to learn and therefore reject Linux.
I don’t think this is the problem. GNU/Linux desktop are more than capable to provide a Windows-like UX with KDE + AppImage.
The problem in my personal opinion is that there’s bugs everywhere. All desktops are written in memory-unsafe languages and keep on reinventing the same wheels over and over again, reintroducing subtle bugs.
oh boy … this “memory-unsafe”-argument again 🤦
Even with a Windows looking desktop UI and usage of AppImages, it’s still no Windows! There are no .exe-Files for drivers and games. There is no Microsoft account you need to login to. There is no “installer” who ask for the path you want to install your program.
What’s wrong with the argument that playing compiler in your head is both a waste of energy and a sure way to write bugs? Aren’t you tired of unexpected resource usage, stuff that should work that reaches hard-to-reproduce edge-cases, and kids bypassing your screensaver.
Really? Then what is Wine/NDISWrapper for? I’ve used Windows games and drivers in the past on my GNU/Linux system, and some of them sure used .exe extension.
Isn’t that a good thing? Also many people still use older windows where cloud login doesn’t exist. Does that mean it’s not Windows?
Yet GNU defined the standard –prefix to choose where to install your software (
make --prefix /Program\ Files/foobar).I mean sure there’s no equivalent of the registry, Aero/Metro UI toolkit, Cortana, or centralized Windows store (except on Ubuntu with snap). But who said we had to have the bad bits? ;)
appimage is easy for me now, but it took me forever 2 years ago to figure out that --no-sandbox addition needed and i still am annoyed that I often have a problem getting the icon on a menu or panel.
i think we should be open to criticism so that we can improve Linux and thereby starve the BigTech beast. If you have weeds in your garden, don’t make excuses for them, yank them out or allow them to grow in more appropriate places.
I’ve used AppImages a bunch but i’ve never heard about “–no-sandbox” so far. Do you know of apps that won’t run without it?
I’ve personally had good luck with AppImageLauncher in the past, but lately i just run apps from terminal. There’s also a bunch of other solutions. Let me know what worked for you :)
100% agree.
Some weeds are really good for your garden’s ecosystem in fact, but that’s off-topic :)
Since electron was apgraded or fixed, that appendage is no longer needed. I read that all of those appimages were made using electron. I did have AppImageLauncher and used it a first, but forgot about it. No longer have it.