I do not know of any undertaking like such. However, teaching GNU/Linux in nontechnical schools would require a team of salesmen and business developers. For example, to use a distro in 1st grade or install in lab classes etc. There is Red Hat but I think they are geared towards the enterprise and server side.
There is the Linux foundation but they do nothing about this topic.
Well… ignoring for a moment the tens of thousands of RaspberryPi that millions of kids will have had exposure to RaspberryPi OS on through code clubs, or as replacement computers (which is becoming more common), and all the Google devices used in one way or another…
All the secondary schools I’ve worked at have had Technicians in the IT department. And
as for primary schools, the tech competency of a teacher is the same whatever OS they happen to be using… If something goes wrong with the tech that they don’t know how to fix : they call for help.
It’s becoming obvious to me that one of the most significant obstacles to the adoption of Linux, is the attitude of techies, who want to keep it for themselves, because they get a kick out of wearing the “I’m techie enough to use Linux” tee shirt. :/
If there is no dedicated team, then who are you going to call for help? The community? The community will give you an answer but there is no guarantee the answer will be on time.
Additionally, all the school I have seen use windows and Microsoft office not RaspberryPis. The closest thing I have too to Linux is a think client that allowed absolutely nothing other than connecting to a Windows RDP.
People using Linux on phones or smart boards understand that they are using Android. Which to their minds is not Linux.
Having technicians does not equate to deciding to use an OS. This is a decision higher in the organization. I worked as an IT for four years and the IT manager thinks that using windows products is the way to go. Windows Pro and Windows Server, Active Directory, Exchange, Outlook, Skype then Teams, SharePoint, MS Office, SCCM, IIS.
Please, investigate a bit about the government distros in Spain used in schools like mEDUxa in the Canary Islands which is just a rebranded Ubuntu and with support from the educational team and some company hired by the local government for such purpose.
Well Spain is not in the majority. There are other mouvemebts like French gendarmerie, German state, etc. But what about Egypt, Morocco, USA, Mexico, Indonesia, New Zealand, Botswana, or South Africa?
When you see a movie, excluding tech niche movies, what OS do you see? os x, windows or KDE? It would be a mac most of the time because they have the bigger game on marketing and salesmen. Linux has nearly zero so we only see it in geek movies where the author made research and wanted an authentic feel to his show.
I would tell you to get informed. The first has that and the second has RPI projects.
Windows or KDE
KDE an OS wtf. The worse is even that is multiplatform being even in BSD-derivatives.
salesmen, his show
Wtf
Idk what kind of shows do you check but not including phones (there are several) I mostly see neutral custom graphical shells and you can guess that tries to imitate one or other but it is a fact.
If there is no dedicated team, then who are you going to call for help?
Well I guess that depends on the nature of the problem and the person with the problem… a family member, a more techie colleague or friend, or an IT shop.
all the school I have seen use windows and Microsoft office
Me too - something I really don’t understand at all. And something which really needs to change.
This is a decision higher in the organization.
Again, you’re right. It’s persuading the people who make these decisions that not only is open source at least as good, but that it’s the smart move too.
I do not know of any undertaking like such. However, teaching GNU/Linux in nontechnical schools would require a team of salesmen and business developers. For example, to use a distro in 1st grade or install in lab classes etc. There is Red Hat but I think they are geared towards the enterprise and server side.
There is the Linux foundation but they do nothing about this topic.
What utter nonsense, really.
What makes you think it is utter nonsense?
Well… ignoring for a moment the tens of thousands of RaspberryPi that millions of kids will have had exposure to RaspberryPi OS on through code clubs, or as replacement computers (which is becoming more common), and all the Google devices used in one way or another…
It’s becoming obvious to me that one of the most significant obstacles to the adoption of Linux, is the attitude of techies, who want to keep it for themselves, because they get a kick out of wearing the “I’m techie enough to use Linux” tee shirt. :/
If there is no dedicated team, then who are you going to call for help? The community? The community will give you an answer but there is no guarantee the answer will be on time.
Additionally, all the school I have seen use windows and Microsoft office not RaspberryPis. The closest thing I have too to Linux is a think client that allowed absolutely nothing other than connecting to a Windows RDP.
People using Linux on phones or smart boards understand that they are using Android. Which to their minds is not Linux.
Having technicians does not equate to deciding to use an OS. This is a decision higher in the organization. I worked as an IT for four years and the IT manager thinks that using windows products is the way to go. Windows Pro and Windows Server, Active Directory, Exchange, Outlook, Skype then Teams, SharePoint, MS Office, SCCM, IIS.
What are you talking about?
Please, investigate a bit about the government distros in Spain used in schools like mEDUxa in the Canary Islands which is just a rebranded Ubuntu and with support from the educational team and some company hired by the local government for such purpose.
In Catalonia, Europe, with a population of 7,5 millions, most secondary public schools use Linkat, a Linux distro based on Debian/Ubuntu:
http://linkat.xtec.cat/portal/index.php
That means there are thousands of children using Linux ;-)
And there are some other countries in Spain with their own scholar Linux distro.
Well Spain is not in the majority. There are other mouvemebts like French gendarmerie, German state, etc. But what about Egypt, Morocco, USA, Mexico, Indonesia, New Zealand, Botswana, or South Africa?
When you see a movie, excluding tech niche movies, what OS do you see? os x, windows or KDE? It would be a mac most of the time because they have the bigger game on marketing and salesmen. Linux has nearly zero so we only see it in geek movies where the author made research and wanted an authentic feel to his show.
You lost the point here
I would tell you to get informed. The first has that and the second has RPI projects.
KDE an OS wtf. The worse is even that is multiplatform being even in BSD-derivatives.
Wtf
Idk what kind of shows do you check but not including phones (there are several) I mostly see neutral custom graphical shells and you can guess that tries to imitate one or other but it is a fact.
If there is no dedicated team, then who are you going to call for help? Well I guess that depends on the nature of the problem and the person with the problem… a family member, a more techie colleague or friend, or an IT shop.
all the school I have seen use windows and Microsoft office Me too - something I really don’t understand at all. And something which really needs to change.
This is a decision higher in the organization. Again, you’re right. It’s persuading the people who make these decisions that not only is open source at least as good, but that it’s the smart move too.
I worked as an IT for four years My condolences.