Whether we choose to think about it or not, humans in their daily lives directly cause immense suffering to the little creatures. Leaving them half crushed, spraying poison, drowning. Have you ever observed these events closely, and possibly worsening the situation for the insect: tear off a leg, peel a wing?
Not really, if I do manage to hurt a bug I usually put them out of their misery so they don’t suffer more than they have to. I don’t know the science behind if they suffer or not but if I were the bug I’d want a swift death.
Isnt it unfair to the ones which we never notice but still directly caused, which is probably the majority of the ones we kill? Maybe it’s just not worth thinking about.
It’s unfair for the same reason if you push a button that seemingly does nothing, but kills another person, it’s unfair to the other person regardless if you notice or not. A life has still ended to no fault of its own.
the difference is that a human life matters and an insect life doesn’t. And the insect situation is real, and the human-button situation is hypothethical.
Matters according to what/whom?
so what even is your point? At first it came off as a vegan-adjacent argument to make people think about the harm they cause in their day-to-day life but then you come out saying that “we should experience an insect torture to understand its insignificance & inevitability” and “a human life matters and an insect life doesn’t”. Are you trying to justify some sort of insect directed sadism? Or is this an argument for misanthropy?
There is no pleasure in witnessing suffering of even insects. There is only acknowledgement. The point is that I think people should pay attention to insects more but not feel bad/or even care when they die.
Here is a hypothetical question for you: is it unfair for the human and animal communities that starve after locust swarms eat all the vegetation in an area? They don’t have the capacity to be concerned with what they are doing and the lives they are affecting.
Exactly, which is why we should experience an insect torture to understand its insignificance & inevitability. I love insects but I also love eating them, and also love watching people clean and prepare them for cooking
we should experience an insect torture
I mean this coming from a place of love in my heart when I say this but wanting to subject anything that’s alive to torture for the sake of torture is mentally ill and abnormal. Seek professional help.
I do not desire for insect torture, and I have no reason nor urge to do it again. But i believe people should do it once, cuz insects are important.
It has already likely been done once and documented. I disagree with this, but even if someone were to agree with it, it’s already on the internet to be watched if for scientific reasons (hopefully not sadistic) so that it doesn’t need to be done again.
The counter to this is that humans are important, so if an alien species were to come here, all the aliens should torture a human at least once because we are important to understand.
This is a very similar scenario, and everyone would probably agree that if said aliens were to torture a human, that it’s absolutely terrible. We are now the insects in this scenario.
No
no and also wtf are you even trying to prove in this thread
I spray poison, but I live with bugs year round and it can get overwhelming here.
I have never (intentionally) left them have crushed or drowned them. Absolutely never teared off a leg or wing…why in the world?
When I was a kid someone told me you can take off a daddy long legs leg and it would still move so I tried it and it worked but then I felt really sad that it was missing a leg.
I don’t think so. My parents --especially my mom-- were very good about teaching me to respect all life. We were always allowed to kill mosquitoes, though: second most deadly animal on Earth after humans. Still never tried to cause them extra pain.
I’d seriously and literally genocide mosquitoes if I could. The particular species dangerous to humans, at least (it’s not all of them, Anopheles mostly I think).
I once left daytime broadcast tv on, with flies buzzing around in the room. I think that counts.
You should be locked up, psycho.
It wasn’t Fox News… I’d worry I’d have to crawl around scrubbing up cockroach vomit.
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When I was a kid I took a magnifying glass outside a few times and set the ants/beetles on fire along with grass and wood chips.
For sure. I used to try to destroy fire ant mounds, very wary not to get any of the millions of ant that poured out of those massive hills on my foot. But the next day, they always rebuilt no matter the damage I dealt.
And when love bugs came out, I would tear off some or all of their limbs and see how they get about without them. It was cruel but these are very annoying bugs.
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Yes, in a multitude of ways different times.
