• cout@lemmy.ml
    41·
    2 years ago

    Curious Why would anyone use piped instead of Newpipe or Yt-dlp?

    • noodlejetski@lemmy.ml
      10·
      2 years ago

      because some people want to watch videos on their desktop PCs, in the browser, without downloading them.

      • cout@lemmy.ml
        33·
        2 years ago

        There are numerous media players like mpvthat can stream youtube. These instances are not only slow, they also sell their user’s information. Edit piped also requires JavaScript to run.

        • noodlejetski@lemmy.ml
          5·
          2 years ago

          There are numerous media players like mpv

          that are not a part of the browser

          they also sell their user’s information.

          I wish you a very [citation needed].

          • cout@lemmy.ml
            12·
            2 years ago

            I wish you a very [citation needed].

            These instances are not much popular so there isn’t much evidence regarding it. Nor you have any evidence that it doesn’t.

            • noodlejetski@lemmy.ml
              5·
              2 years ago

              there isn’t much evidence regarding it. Nor you have any evidence that it doesn’t.

              and only one of us posted a claim without backing it up with proof.

            • PP44@lemmy.ml
              2·
              2 years ago

              I have evidence that some don’t. I am personnaly part of an association running a public instance with no user data sold whatsoever.

              • cout@lemmy.ml
                13·
                2 years ago

                I have evidence that some don’t.

                Where? No one posted evidence in this thread.

                some don’t.

                But some do. You can never be sure about all of them do same. Also what if some instances are running modified version of it.

                personnaly

                personally.

                • PP44@lemmy.ml
                  2·
                  2 years ago

                  Of course you can never be sure. But you cannot be sure about any local player either. Even if it is libre software, it rely on trust. Or you would have to read every piece of software used. In the same way that some software are trustworthy enough to use, some hosts are too.

                  Sorry if I sound aggressive, I just try to be short <3 !

        • krolden@lemmy.ml
          61·
          2 years ago

          These instances are not only slow, they also sell their user’s information.

          Citation needed

            • cout@lemmy.ml
              21·
              2 years ago

              Piped requires JavaScript for everything. . This post was about piped not about invidious. To avoid getting downvoted Please do some research before posting.

        • Arthur Besse@lemmy.ml
          3·
          2 years ago

          These instances are not only slow, they also sell their user’s information.

          I’ve long wondered about this regarding alternate frontends for big sites in general, but especially about the youtube frontends like piped and invidious which must require substantial resources to operate (though sometimes they’re serving the video data itself directly from google, sometimes they’re actually proxying it too)… but, I’ve never seen any evidence of it. Have you?

          In any case, many of the popular instances are running on Microsoft or Oracle clouds, and/or Clownflare, so, from a privacy standpoint it isn’t really much different than Google. I use them occasionally in Tor Browser just because they’re less likely to be blocking a Tor exit than youtube proper is.

            • Arthur Besse@lemmy.ml
              4·
              2 years ago

              sure it is, i do it all the time. sometimes i’ll get a too-slow circuit and need to try another, but, it works on the first try more often than not.

        • Whom@lemmy.ml
          31·
          2 years ago

          I’ve seen no reason to believe any privacy frontend I’ve used has done this. However, even if you are concerned about this, Freetube is a more convenient option which can use its own local API similar to how Newpipe does it while still keeping a nice interface with subscription management and such.

          • cout@lemmy.ml
            14·
            2 years ago

            However, even if you are concerned about this, Freetube is a more convenient option which can use its own local API similar to how Newpipe does it while still keeping a nice interface with subscription management and such.

            That’s exactly what I said.

              • cout@lemmy.ml
                14·
                2 years ago

                There are numerous media players like mpvthat can stream youtube.

                • Whom@lemmy.ml
                  5·
                  2 years ago

                  …yes, but freetube is actually comparable to the featureset of newpipe, piped, or invidious.

                  You’re approaching this as a confrontation when it isn’t one. You listed two players which are not necessarily replacements for a desktop user who wants subscription management and such, so I provided one which does.

      • cout@lemmy.ml
        22·
        2 years ago

        Thanks but I’m not looking for alternatives. But it’s still better than public instances of pipe.

        • Echedenyan@lemmy.ml
          3·
          2 years ago

          It is not for you specifically but also for people to which you made a proposal in the form of an opinion.

  • noodlejetski@lemmy.ml
    3·
    2 years ago

    I use the official one, piped.kavin.rocks, mostly because it’s the one that I’ve learned about Piped from. I’m naively thinking that it’s the least likely one to disappear, even though that’s what happened with the main Invidious instance.

    I wish there was an instance with a sane, short and easy to remember URL, like yewtu.be.