I have a good experience with digitalocean when it comes to technical stuff, or computing stability, most of my apps hosted there are business related apps, has nothing to do with public opinion. but recently i decided to launch a lemmy instance that allows freedom of speech with very less restrictions, and i’m still thinking to put the service on digitalocean, but i dont know if digitalocean is good when it comes to freedom of speech, because i dont want to wake up at the morning and find that they blocked my account and deleted all my data because they didn`t like what my users are talking about.

Note: Less restrictions means (no pornography, child pornography, terrorist group and violence support, copyrighted materials trade).

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Digitalocean is based in the United States, so if you host your instance there, you will have to follow the laws of that country to some degree (at least if the instance gets big enough for someone to notice). It will probably be similar if your instance is hosted in another country, and I dont think there is any country that is clearly neutral.

So my suggestion is to think about which countries your instance would mainly criticize, and then host in a “hostile” country. For example, if you want to criticize the United States, host in Russia or China as their governments wont care about that. Or vice versa.

From what I’ve heard the US law is pretty okay in terms of freedom of speech if you aren’t a direct threat to the US

Yeah. Suuuure. Snowden. Assange. Daniel Hale. Chelsea Manning. Reality Winner. Countless others. Ring any bells?

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They were threatening the US so they had to go (according to the US)

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Your comment is helpful and clear. Thanks mate.

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“Freedom” is horrifically relative in many cases. You either have freedom or you don’t. Once you start justifying degrees of freedom, it is not freedom at all, but just degrees of censorship. Yes terrorism (relative to particular countries, or they called freedom fighters), hate speech, incitement to violence, happiness, child pornography, drugs, whatever are all free, or they are not. But in the US, it seems that “freedom of speech” seems synonymous actually with political opinions. Then why don’t we just call it politics or political opinion?

Most Western countries are OK with freedom of speech along the lines of political opinion, but most are not OK with incitements of violence, hate speech, incitements to commit crimes in that country, etc.

But you can choose the country of hosting for DigitalOcean which is the most compatible with what you want to host. My personal opinion is, it is often better to host it somewhere outside your own country, if the concern is about your own government.

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If you end up providing a space for hate speech you are likely violating their ToS and thus they will delete it if someone complains.

But this is really just normal and common sense. Why would you provide online space for idiots posting their bullshit?

This has nothing to do with censorship or freedom of speech. Imagine someone opening a pub… and then having people turn up and shit on the tables and hurl insults at anyone passing by. Why would anyone in their right mind tolerate that?

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I truly appreciate your view, but this not how you think mate. I’m not into hate speech of course, I’m not trying to create something that makes people fight over silly stuff, just want to establish a civilized speech but in deep, something we usually don`t see in the mainstream. lets assume that we are talking politics, for example, we criticize foreign and internal policy of the countries, defense contractors and arm dealers, shadow economics and human rights violations.
Also, we put leaks and we talk deeply about Pandora and panama papers. all these as examples.

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