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If nobody wants them… they are not worth that amount. simple economics.
supply and demand…
I know i would get made fun of for this but a good price is a good price. I would pay $15,000 for one. I think most people would.
Edit 2 min later - I thought better of it. No i still wouldn’t want it. I wouldn’t trust Tesla not to hack it at some point and take it over.
I think a few hours with a torch and they would make fantastic dumpsters. Imagine if you could crab walk a self moving dumpster? Genius
I wonder if people don’t want the truck because of its design or the association with Elon more.
Those are 2 excellent reasons to hate it.
I actually really like the look of it. It’s so ugly.
Also paint. I hate seeing paint chips on my car. I know I can wrap but that’s an extra expense to eat.
I just can’t see myself buying a new Tesla due to the damage Elon has caused. It’s a shame because my current Tesla is a wonderful car, in my opinion.
So like what, 20?
“$800m”… If nobody wants them, they’re not worth anything.
it cost them something to make…they arent completely valueless
cost != value
Scrap metal. I’ll give them $100 if they run, $50 if I have to tow it.
But think of all the time that was spent to create them! /s
If those 5 trucks had feelings they would be hurt
Certainly they mean MSRP.
“nobody wants” or 60% of Americans can’t afford basic living expenses?
Even if I could afford one, or want one, which I don’t for many reasons, the vehicle is so ginormous that it would be the biggest pain in the ass in the world to drive around my city. Parallel parking? Forget it. Narrow side streets that are the width of a car, but somehow you need to let someone come down directly towards you and it’s not a one way? Bumpy roads full of potholes or worn down to the original brick roads, with the vehicle that’s tires wear out faster than any other due to the sheer weight?
I think you get the idea
Seattle? Sounds like Seattle.
Pittsburgh PA
Both.
Why not both nobody wants them and 60% of Americans can’t afford basic living expenses?
For all we know lots of people want them but can’t afford them.
Paints two completely different scenarios from the same objective base observation that there are X amount of unsold Cybertrucks.
Why is that all you know and why are you lumping us in with you?
They’ve got ~60% more inventory than sales (6k sold).
For comparison Rivian has 400% more sales than inventory. (14k sold).
This should be plenty of data to conclude how popular the Cybertruck actually is.
Are you comparing the same time frames? Because Rivian’s sales are down 36% for Q1 2025.
I guess no one wants them either, or would a headline about Rivian invoke some other reason?
That’s my point.
Rivian didn’t over produce, and notably, didn’t go all in with the new authoritarian regime. Also, a 36% decrease in sales is much less than having $800 million (in MSRP) sitting in lots. The R1T is a very successful vehicle if you compare it to the Swastitruck.
Can someone explain how the demographic of people who loved to park their gas guzzlers to purposefully block tesla charging stations are now Musk fanboys all of a sudden?
In fascism, there are no opinions. There is only loyalty to the one on top of the hierarchy. When they are told to hate EVs, they hate EVs. When they are told to love them the next day, they love them.
There is only one single core belief in fascism. There must be an “in” group that the state protects, and an “out” group that the state oppresses. There are zero other rules. This means that the definition of the in group is completely arbitrary and fluid based on what helps the strongman at the top. If you ever question the definition of the in group, you are automatically part of the out group.
Oppositional Defiant Disorder.
Cybertrucks are just sitting around, waiting for someone to officially label them the DeLorean of the 21st century.
Hey! You take that back! DeLoreans were always cool cars. Their demise wasn’t due to lack of popularity, the company just had problems getting established, and ultimately didn’t survive its initial growth phase.
Nobody despised the DeLorean, or it’s owner. They just ran out of money, and he tried a desperate Hail Mary play, that didn’t work.
Their demise wasn’t due to lack of popularity, the company just had problems getting established, and ultimately didn’t survive its initial growth phase.
Hm, I thought their demise was due to them arbitrarily going back in time.
FUCK I accidentally hit 88mph again. I’m going to be really early to dinner…
I’d fucking love to have a DeLorean; they’re bad cars but that’s where the similarities to the Cybertruck end. They’re just cool.
Their demise was absolutely due to lack of popularity. In December '81 they had produced 7,000 units and sold 3,000. I’d argue that they failed for the same reason Fiero did – they looked like a sports car but were not. Top speed was 110mph. 0-60 time was 10.5 seconds. It had a V-6 that put out 130hp in a car with a curb wt of 2700 lbs. 0-60 time was measured at 10.5 seconds. To put that in perspective, about the same as a 99 Ford F-350 Super Duty Crew Cab 4x4 Dually or 73 LTD Brougham. There are virtually no modern cars that run 0-60 that slow. A 2024 5.3l Suburban has a time of 7.0
In addition, they had numerous quality control problems. This in a car that retailed for $25k or the rough equivalent of $86,000 in today’s dollars. While it’s probably true that nobody despised the car, it was not a good car. They were definitely cool sitting in a parking lot but getting spanked by a 1980 Chevy Citation (0-60 10.3) is not a good look
The cybertruck is on a different scale of unpopularity.
Nobody threw Molotov cocktails at Delorians.
Not with that spelling.
Holy moly those specs are remarkably similar to my 1st generation Prius.
Now compare the gas mileage lol
Edit - Was actually curious:
Vehicle City Highway Combined DeLorean 17 23 19 Prius 42 41 42 I actually expected the DeLorean to be worse
How dare you disparage the amazing Fiero!
I’m not saying you are wrong in anything you state, and you make good points.
And yes you are probably right that the shortcomings compared to what was promised is the main reason sales didn’t go as expected.
But I think you don’t see it the same way as barneypiccolo you responded to.
Wasn’t the DeLorean design pretty iconic from the beginning? The fact that there are still more than 2/3rds of the cars built on the road today 44 years later does speak volumes to its favor regarding popularity IMO. Those were not cars that were bought, found insufficient and then scrapped. But instead have been maintained despite DeLorean hasn’t been around to supply spare parts.
Also the fact that the car had such a central role in the Movie Back to the Future, because it was simply such a cool car despite it’s flaws, what other car could they have used for similar effect?
Imagine trying to do that with the Cybertruck! The Cinema would most like burst out in laughter from claiming doing anything with a Cybertruck would be to do it in “Style” as Emmet Brown expressed it regarding the DeLrean. It would clearly be seen as a fat joke on how stupid the car is and looks.
So no the car wasn’t popular enough in sales for the number of cars DeLorean built, but it was never an unpopular atrocity like the Cybertruck is.Edit PS:
they had produced 7,000 units and sold 3,000
That’s not true:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMC_DeLoreantotal production reached an estimated 9,000 units
And allegedly they needed to sell about 2000 cars remaining to continue.
They’re not worthless, im sure you can use them for scrap metal
Fuck Tesla. No bailouts for Nazis.
Narrator: …
He’s right behind me isn’t he
I am expecting them to end up as ICE technicals, used to hunt down dissidents like…checks notes…American citizens, children, and the elderly.
My pet conspiracy theory has been that Elmo was hoping Trump would mandate that everything gov related has to drive Teslas.
So your saying one will be able to avoid ICE by simply escaping on days when its raining?
Or, by running through sand or mud!
Finally some good news
And retail investors continue to bail out the investors with money who are actually making money. Watch out for that rug!
I would pay 10 bucks to use them in my survival kit as a fire starter.
maybe they should try making their cars not ugly as sin
The main flaw of that thing is its bad engineering. The design was meant to be polarising and if it was actually a good car, it would work in its favour.
They are also larger then expected or needed. The one I see at work just barely fits in the parking spaces, width wise.
But that goes for pretty much any pickup truck. The whole category is an affront to common sense.
Nah. The current crop of US pickups is, I’ll agree; but there’s plenty of older pickups that are much more reasonably scaled. Not to mention non-American models.
Agreed. I was specifically referring to the current crop of US pickups.
Oder Pickups were utility vehicles, not the abhorrent passenger vehicles they are commonly used as today. I’m sure the other person wasn’t referring to your average 1968 F150 used on a farm back in the day.
