Reminds me of walking quite far and into the docklands area when my friends were visiting me for a night out at university.
I said something along the lines of ‘Why are we out here?’ and their reply was ‘We were following you.’ I replied I was following one of them, and then the reply was: ‘You fuckwit, we don’t know where your dorm is.’
Drinking does seem to ruin critical thinking.
I find it interesting you call it Jesuit programming.
Some of the greatest scientists from India were evidently religious but they were also extremely scientific. I guess monotheistic dogma does run counter to multifaceted scientific evidence.
That said, there’s still a lot of Christian scientists who do not discard of evidence. It’s just that OP is talking to the wrong people.