• mekhos
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    02 years ago

    I’d feel sad for someone’s Granny that gave $10 to her grandson without really understanding or believing in the cause.

    With regards to the majority of donors though, it would be very interesting to learn of how many are actually in USA or in public jobs that that have no business stoking this particular dumpster fire.

    • @GenkiFeral@lemmy.ml
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      12 years ago

      Maybe Granny believed in the cause. i sure do. I almost cried when I saw the 10 or so John Deere tractors with the farmers on top blocking the intersection. it was a beautiful sight.

      • krolden
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        12 years ago

        i wonder how they feel about right to repair laws. just more government overreach?

        • @GenkiFeral@lemmy.ml
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          02 years ago

          No one says all-or-nothing for any human or group. No one or thing can be either all bad or all good. That is lazy thinking. Governments have been wrong in the past. In their case, it is because of a vaccine against their will. But, yeah, I don’t want to wear a mask. Now, if some rude SoB if coughing and sneezing near me, I’d put one on if I carried one (I don’t) and ask him/her to. But, it hasn’t happened yet.
          Some of you remind me of the Buddhist saying about the finger pointing to the moon is not what you are supposed to focus on - you are supposed to focus on the moon. You don’t get the point. To me, this vaccine or mask mandate isn’t about a virus, but about control. Throughout human history, one group or another sought to control the population. I left home at age 16 because I didn’t want my family to control me or the school or church. There are psychological tests that rate what you most value. Time and again for me it is freedom. i never married or had kids because I value freedom more. I equate freedom with dignity. You have a right to your own values, but have no right to choose mine for me or impose your values onto others. I am a vegan, atheist, healthnut and a minimalist - should I impose my values on you? Is that considerate?

          • @Echedenyan@lemmy.ml
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            12 years ago

            Veganism is not a lifestyle nor a personal choice. It is an ethical principle which consists in the respect of the rights of individuals of other species.

            Killing someone is not that kind of decision you think it is. In the end, you put your rights over other ones. It is something you even explain here you don’t want.

          • krolden
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            12 years ago

            If anything these people have proven they cannot make their own decisions. They are literally advocating against public health measures that have been shown effective.

            Anyone who wont wear a mask is just an asshole, plain and simple. Deal with it and get over your hurt feelings. Also, i’m sure you’re one of the many people here concerned about government surveillance and whatever, so why not wear a mask just to keep your ugly mug off of cameras? That alone should be a good enough reason for you.

            This has nothing to do with values, it’s a public health issue and people like you cant see beyond your own smug sense of self government to save yourself.

            • @GenkiFeral@lemmy.ml
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              02 years ago

              You cherry pick your doctors and scientists and I have a slew i can quote from. This is a waste of our time, and that is exactly why each person should have the responsiblitiy and the right to live how they want and to live with the results of their choices. Promiscuous sex spreads diseases - even to women who’ve only been with one man all of their life. Should we outlaw sex outside of marriage? We could go on and on about how we each affect each other.

              • krolden
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                22 years ago

                Don’t I have the right to live without you getting me infected even if you could have taken measures against it? Your freedom argument is a dead end. This goes beyond personal freedom and you need to accept that.

                • @GenkiFeral@lemmy.ml
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                  02 years ago

                  it is a dead end, because only symptoms can infect others. If my immune system handles it, there are no symptoms. this is not the black plague or rabies. 99% live and over 80% never get sick/symptoms. I won’t accept lies and poor logic. if your mask works so well, you have no need for me to wear one - especially since I stand farther away and have no symptoms. If you think I am a leper, stay home. A drunk behind the wheel of a car is more dangerous, yet bars have parking lots full of cars and you have to drive to the store to buy booze, maybe it should only be delivered? you are a coward about the wrong thing, mister. You are scared because soeone else TOLD you to be scared. That is pathetic.

      • @testingthis@lemmy.ml
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        -12 years ago

        Thank you. There is still some sanity left on the internet. This movement was critically important. So cool that you actually saw it!!

          • @GenkiFeral@lemmy.ml
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            -12 years ago

            I consider citizens reminding the government or any institution who wants power over others that it is us that allows them to have that power. I am also a huge fan of consumer advocacy because companies also tend to exert power over others - from polluting the waterways or soil to allowing harmful products to be sold to putting employees at risk. I hate bullies and like to see them put in their place. I am in better shape than most people my age, so I do care about health, but I mind my own business and take care of my own immune system and don’t preach to others about their diet or smoking or using tosix cleaners. If you want to destroy your health, your immune system, go right ahead. But, don’t dare tell me it is my fault becasue YOUR immune system didn’t properly handle a virus

            • krolden
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              12 years ago

              But, don’t dare tell me it is my fault becasue YOUR immune system didn’t properly handle a virus

              wat. I dont think you quite understand how viruses work.

              • @GenkiFeral@lemmy.ml
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                02 years ago

                I know more about health and even viruses than most people. Your immune system handles the virus if YOU handled your immune system by making better choices. A study in CA showed that over 80% of people of 2 counties had the antibodies for the virus and yet never got sick - no symptoms. Their immune system did its job - what it evolved for millions of years to do. The other 20% didn’t get the virus yet. Covid-19 is not rabies, but works like the flu. You might feel weak for an hour, a year, or not at all - depending on how your immune system handles it. People have that crappy saying, “well, ya gotta die of somethin’”. Well, jackass, something might be here and if you have a major illness already, something might take you out a bit quicker. oh well. your choice.

                • krolden
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                  02 years ago

                  That’s quite the long winded way of saying “i don’t care about anyone but myself”.

                • Helix 🧬B
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                  02 years ago

                  Your immune system handles the virus if YOU handled your immune system by making better choices.

                  What the actual fuck. There’s several other reasons for having a weak immune system.

                  Covid-19 is not rabies, but works like the flu.

                  This is incorrect. The flu is not a coronavirus but a virus of the category orthomyxoviridae.